This one's for you, Sykes...

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The goal is learn from different people's experience which is useful. You would get a lot more going to local offices if Investment Banks and asking one of their bigger guys to come and speak to your group (they like that educational exchange). Granted it is Arizona and you will not get the NYC or Chi traders but you still get a good experienced person. Or organize a group trade to Trader's EXpo Las Vegas- lots of salesmen but free seminars on various trading info as well.

Of course bringing in an author is fine with a book to sell but with Sykes you are getting Hollywood and Hype when you want facts and figures. I am sure he was entertaining though...
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I did organize a group of us to go to the Las Vegas Trader's Expo. It was a great experience and I made a few contacts for myself and for the club...

Thanks for the suggestion as well. I'm glad you are able to be civilized while I use the "Sykes" word.
 
Quote from kidPWRtrader:

Wow... here we go...
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you know I gotta say OP you are really very civilized, very restrained person, in your position working with students I guess you have to be professional

but you must have noticed by now that we traders are well how shall I put it, we are pricks sometimes, but as long as you understand that the personality required to make it alone in something like futures day trading for example, needs to smart yet brutal and crude at the same time

it is a must in order to keep going after multiple and multiple failures
 
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you know I gotta say OP you are really very civilized, very restrained person, in your position working with students I guess you have to be professional

but you must have noticed by now that we traders are well how shall I put it, we are pricks sometimes, but as long as you understand that the personality required to make it alone in something like futures day trading for example, needs to smart yet brutal and crude at the same time

it is a must in order to keep going after multiple and multiple failures
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Strangely enough, I am aiming at going live futures sometime in the next few months (not until im 100% confident in my ability to execute).

I know all you guys are pricks haha. Luckily, I was mentored from the start by a very ego-less, down to earth trader.

Any ego that I had was destroyed by him. But, it was a good experience and it got me to the point from being a gambler ---> trader. I cant say he was ever crude to me... i deserved most of what he told me for doing the stupid shit I did.

One day I'll join you in the land of freedom... just not yet.
 
You show me a "liquid" wealthy individual with no ego and I will show you a horse with no arse.

Those who are "humbel" per sa, are those who are "leveraged", credit, and not "Liquid".

That is real life,
 
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You show me a "liquid" wealthy individual with no ego and I will show you a horse with no arse.

Those who are "humbel" per sa, are those who are "leveraged", credit, and not "Liquid".

That is real life,
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I agree in general, however.....in my history, I've noticed that when traders have ego's it can be a real problem, just like "gamblers." A guy who became very successful in another business feels he "should" be able to trade and of course, shouldn't lose gambling (Doctors and Lawyers come to mind, as well as guys from many different ventures). They tend to not want to be wrong, so don't capitulate when thehy should or hold positions they shouldn't have, add to losing trades, etc.

FWIW,

Don (geez, made it to a "hook up" thread again, LOL.
 
Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

You show me a "liquid" wealthy individual with no ego and I will show you a horse with no arse.

Those who are "humbel" per sa, are those who are "leveraged", credit, and not "Liquid".

That is real life,
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its the other way around....in my experience.
 
kidPWRtrader said:
As it worked out, I became president of a club whose main goals are investing (long term stuff).

Because I don't really care about that, I try to do what I can even though I am not necessarily in the situation I want to be in. I would rather be trading than managing a club, but it feels good to give back... though at first I didn't see it this way.

Believe me when I say that it's difficult to find a trader who is willing to do this who is not a completely loony toon character (and I realize it is because there is no incentive).

I have talked to Tim Morge about speaking and he seemed to like the UA, so I hope that will happen. I have tons of respect for Morge, so hopefully that will be next.
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https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/tim-morge-and-the-well-chosen-example.305061/page-3
 
Tim Sykes is the king of selling trading educational material and chat room fees. He probably nets 5+ mil per year.
 
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