This is why we riot

Tsing Tao said:
First, I tend to avoid posting any opinion on the shooting threads on this forum because they are not as easily interpreted as the Floyd video. They usually start with some liberal here posting a "Black man murdered by cop" sensationalist thread, and invariably always start with claims of racism followed by "this shall not stand" type commentary and hyperbole.

As days go by, more facts come out and in more times than I can count, the facts surface to show that the person shot actually was shot because they had a gun, or were attempting to attack the police, or were trying to apply deadly force back to the cops, etc. Reminds me of that "How Not To Get your Ass Kicked By The Police" instructional video Chris Rock put out.

I also, as a disclaimer, have a good deal of friends in LE locally here and we train together, so I am predisposed towards listening to their argument first. In the Floyd video, there's just no excuse, so that one is an easy call. Most are not like that.

That being said, here are posts I've made (a quick search pulled them out) where I was going off on the police for their actions on a given instance. You will, of course, come up with all sorts of excuses as to why these do not fit your criteria and use this as an excuse to why you have not condemned any of the riots and violence around the country (thinking one has to do with the other - it doesn't).



This post was in response to cops placing drugs on someone at a traffic stop.



In response to the arrest of two reporters Ryan Reilly and Wesley Lowery during Ferguson riots.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...wing-ajournalistsa.285703/page-4#post-4008165

Saying the police should be tried for manslaughter after shooting a guy in a walmart with a pellet gun

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...n-affluent-suburb.292111/page-18#post-4140443

Talking about how police psych tests are failing and how a superiority complex allows bad apples to get a foothold in the force.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...ge-thug-to-a-streetfight.311832/#post-4495654

Lamenting the behavior of police to subdue a citizen with force.

Etc...there are others, but these turned up on a search for the word "police" and my username.

The point - so very obviously - is that when presented with evidence, I review it careful and will pass judgment. If police act poorly, they should be prosecuted accordingly. But all evidence must be considered because it is a tough and dirty and thankless job that is subject to scrutiny many of us - you included - wouldn't pass each and every time. Violent encounters are fluid, mistakes happen.

The Floyd video was so very obviously not a mistake and premeditated murder. If you can show me another video so very obviously murder (you can't) then you would have a point if I had seen it and hadn't commented.

But this still doesn't change the fact that you have embraced rioting and violence, because you haven't condemned it.
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This is why I stopped posting in the politics section, until yesterday, the argument he is making is not legitimate, its "agree with me or your a racist"

There is no debating with people like this.

Everyone agrees this cop is a total piece of shit, and he will get what's coming to him when he goes to prison.

But somehow if you dobt unilaterally support everything that's happening as a result of this incident, you are a racist.

Its disingenuous bullshit that used to just enrage me, which is why I dropped out of posting in the politics section, there is no such thing as real debate with clowns s like useque, when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail, it's an asinine opinion that is as stupid as it is predictable because it happens over and over and over
 
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Let's put things in perspective.

George Floyd - 46 - 6ft 6 inches - 230 lbs. - ex con - drunk and on drugs at time of arrest - trying to pass a counterfeit $20 at time of arrest. Ex con committing a crime.

It is hard to find on Google that George was an ex con for a serious crime but it is there -

"Floyd was charged in 2007 with armed robbery in a home invasion in Houston and in 2009 was sentenced to five years in prison as part of a plea deal, according to court documents." - https://www.ajc.com/news/victim-pol...ed-new-life-minnesota/rMmT2wipeQFNnsypmh6oBL/ - convicted felon - crime with a gun.

What the police officer did was wrong but if George Floyd, who is 6ft 6 - who had already served time for an armed robbery charge in a home invasion (very serious) - drunk - high - is out there committing a crime - things can happen.

The officer in question had a history of using excessive force but was still on the force.

When you have a job where people can pour water on you, spit on you, call you all kinds of names, and throw things at you and you are suppose to show up for work every day and take it, you are not going to get the most qualified people for the job.

This is much worse - https://nypost.com/2020/05/12/married-couple-killed-at-delaware-veterans-cemetery-identified/
 
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