This is what a 'bank run' looks like...

Quote from bdon:

It don't matter how many names are on an account. It's one account. FDIC insured for $100k.

Mislead? ha. Over the last ten years, I was told "I did not have sexual relations with that women", "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction", "Mission Accomplished", "Bear Sterns is adequately capitalized", "the housing market is stablizing".

Who the hell do you sue first? If you know who the last american idol is, and who won the last survivor, but don't know who your state senators are. Sue yourself!!!

Not only that, they changed the words to: "America the Beautiful" last week; it was a flooding issue. Even Phoenix got flooded yesterday after all that work of rising out of ashes.
 
Quote from blackjack007:

the de-regulation and resulting bubble also allowed many people to live large for many years. it's only bad now, but no one was complaining 2 years ago when people were buying nice cars, watches, clothes, homes, plasmas, and taking nice vacations.

i personally like the boom-bust cycle. during times like these, you can get a great deal on luxury items. i just bought a f430 a month ago. exotic cars are depreciating harder than a miami condo.

did you miss out and are now bitter?

Hmmm... I always thought the whole point of luxury cars was the status associated with saying 'I spent top dollar.' In other words, a used Ferrari is one mark down from the highest level of ostentatious.

If you're going to wear status, you have to pay retail !!!!

:)
heheheh... (not my cup of tea -- all of those superficial materialist possessions don't really do it for me. It would give me a guilt complex if I drove one of those.)
 
Quote from blackjack007:



i personally like the boom-bust cycle. during times like these, you can get a great deal on luxury items. i just bought a f430 a month ago. exotic cars are depreciating harder than a miami condo.

did you miss out and are now bitter?

unfortunately
this is simply not true, luxury items are not plumeting in price, in fact, ferraris in particular are holding or going up in value right now. watches, cars, etc, still the same or higher than last year, note the activity
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Tr...ariQ20f430QQ_catZ6001QQ_fromZR40QQ_pcatsZ6000



surf:mad:
 
Quote from bdon:

It don't matter how many names are on an account. It's one account. FDIC insured for $100k.
That isn't always true, its easy to title a single account so that has more than $100k in coverage:

http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insured/yid.pdf

Payable-on-Death (POD) Accounts
The owner of a POD account is insured up to $100,000 for each beneficiary if all of the following requirements are met:
...
Explanation:
Deposit insurance coverage is based on each owner’s trust relationship with each qualifying beneficiary.
The owner of this POD account, the father, is insured up to a maximum of $200,000 since he has two qualifying beneficiaries on the revocable trust account.
This example assumes that the beneficiaries have equal beneficiary interests in the revocable trust account and the owner has no other revocable trust accounts naming the same beneficiaries.
If Robert Clark had listed his mother, sister and brother on the account as POD on his account then that account would have been covered by the FDIC for $300k.
 
Quote from GTS:

That isn't always true, its easy to title a single account so that has more than $100k in coverage:

http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insured/yid.pdf


If Robert Clark had listed his mother, sister and brother on the account as POD on his account then that account would have been covered by the FDIC for $300k.

one account is one account. A revocable trust that governs several accounts isn't an account. Its a legal document that oversee's the handling of several accounts, all of which have their own fdic insurance. No?
 
Quote from blackjack007:

i just bought a f430 a month ago. exotic cars are depreciating harder than a miami condo.

did you miss out and are now bitter?
I hope you LEASED.....not the right time to BUY an F430. New Skyline GT-R though is a BUY all day long (78K.....locked in a $10,000 over MSRP deal for late 08 delivery)!!! :cool:
 
Quote from bdon:

one account is one account. A revocable trust that governs several accounts isn't an account. Its a legal document that oversee's the handling of several accounts, all of which have their own fdic insurance. No?
No, Read page 11 of the PDF:

"There are both informal and formal revocable trusts. Informal revocable trusts, often called “payable-on-death”
(POD), “Totten trust,” or “in trust for” (ITF) accounts, are created when the account owner signs an agreement–usually part of the bank’s signature card – stating that the deposits are payable to one or more beneficiaries upon the owner’s death."

You are describing a formal revocable trust, its not necessary to gain the increased FDIC coverage. All that is required is to title the account correctly.
 
Quote from bdon:

It don't matter how many names are on an account. It's one account. FDIC insured for $100k.

Not true.

According to the FDIC web site, two people can have a joint account and each individual is insured for 100K with the combined insured amount for the account of 200K.

http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insuringdeposits/index.html

Joint Accounts
These are deposit accounts owned by two or more people. If both owners have equal rights to withdraw money from a joint account, each person’s shares of all joint accounts at the same insured bank are added together and the total is insured up to $100,000.

If a couple has a joint checking account and a joint savings account at the same insured bank, each co-owner's shares of the two accounts are added together and insured up to $100,000, providing up to $200,000 in coverage for the couple's joint accounts.

Example: John and Mary have a $220,000 CD at an insured bank. Under FDIC rules, each person's share of each joint account is considered equal unless otherwise stated in the bank’s records. John and Mary each own $110,000 in the joint account category, putting a total of $20,000 ($10,000 for each) over the insurance limit.

Account Holders Ownership Share Amount Insured Amount Uninsured
John $ 110,000 $ 100,000 $ 10,000
Mary $ 110,000 $ 100,000 $ 10,000
Total $ 220,000 $ 200,000 $ 20,000

Note: Jointly owned qualifying trust accounts are not included in this ownership category.
 
Quote from bdon:

Who the hell do you sue first? If you know who the last american idol is, and who won the last survivor, but don't know who your state senators are. Sue yourself!!!

Classic! Well said.
 
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