This is too funny!

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

RS,

I don't doubt that your friend is well-informed and means well. However, there are equally well-informed scientists who are just as well-meaning who have shot huge holes in the whole theory of global warming. It is all based on models that include enormous fudge factors and that are not reliable when backtested on historical data.

This is not true. The weight of scientific evidence is on the side global warming being real.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html#TOP

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Even if global warming is occurring, how do we know that this isn't just a normal long-range oscillation of regular weather patterns on earth? How can we even begin to presume we can prove "anything" with just a hundred years worth of weather records when these cycles could span thousands or even hundreds of thousands?

It seems like a political issue totally. There are enough people out there that believe humans are "destroying the environment" that politicians swarm in with all these ideas to fix a problem that might not even be a problem to begin with.

I agree that if there is a recycle bin next to the trash bin, we should take the extra 2 seconds out and do the right thing, but a lot of these ultra-liberals will have you believe that the world is going to end next year -- oh wait, the year after that -- oh no, the following year ... well, at some point it will end.

Yes, eventually when the sun starts to run out of fuel it will expand and we will indeed be experiencing some serious global warming. However, right now the only thing politicians are doing when it comes to preaching about global warming is playing the emotional card on a lot of people who don't know much more than what they hear on the 10 o'clock news before going to bed.
 
"However, right now the only thing politicians are doing when it comes to preaching about global warming is playing the emotional card on a lot of people who don't know much more than what they hear on the 10 o'clock news before going to bed."

However, right now the only thing politicians are doing when it comes to preaching about terrorism is playing the emotional card on a lot of people who don't know much more than what they hear on the 10 o'clock news before going to bed.

Your political bias is showing young Aphie.

Quote from aphexcoil:

Even if global warming is occurring, how do we know that this isn't just a normal long-range oscillation of regular weather patterns on earth? How can we even begin to presume we can prove "anything" with just a hundred years worth of weather records when these cycles could span thousands or even hundreds of thousands?

It seems like a political issue totally. There are enough people out there that believe humans are "destroying the environment" that politicians swarm in with all these ideas to fix a problem that might not even be a problem to begin with.

I agree that if there is a recycle bin next to the trash bin, we should take the extra 2 seconds out and do the right thing, but a lot of these ultra-liberals will have you believe that the world is going to end next year -- oh wait, the year after that -- oh no, the following year ... well, at some point it will end.

Yes, eventually when the sun starts to run out of fuel it will expand and we will indeed be experiencing some serious global warming. However, right now the only thing politicians are doing when it comes to preaching about global warming is playing the emotional card on a lot of people who don't know much more than what they hear on the 10 o'clock news before going to bed.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

RS, I'm going to tell you something that just might break your heart. You might not sleep tonight after I tell you this. But I think it's time that you knew the truth. No politician in Washington, wether they are republican or democrat give a shit about you or the environment OK. Yes, that means even your almighty Al Gore. All these politicians are just there to serve a political end. This is one of the reasons why I'm a republican and not a democrat because I know at the end of the day, they are in it for them and not for me. And you know what, If I was there, I would do the same thing too.

So don't start thinking that Al Gore really gives a flying f*ck about the environment. The fact of the matter is he has an allegiance to certain organizations, and in this case, certain environmental organizations. Gore is a sellout just like all the others. This is why every day I seek to give these bureaucrat less and less power and less and less of my money. But if you want to believe that Al gore is some crusader for the environment then go ahead and think that. But I know better. It's funny RS, I really thought you were more politically astute then this. I was wrong.

Correctomundo......
 
Quote from ARogueTrader:


Your political bias is showing young Aphie.


Political Bias? How so? We live in a world filled with biases. I'm sure what you believe to be correct is correct in your world. Likewise, the things John Doe believes is correct in his worldview, but not necessarily in yours.

Republican / Liberal .... Reactionary / Communist ... Fasict, Anarchist, Centrist, etc. These are nice convenient words to pigeonhole someone's views. See, we live in a world where many people are too lazy to want to take the time to truly understand another man's political views. So instead, we invent words like "conservative" or "liberal" as a shoebox to throw people in.

"Oh, Sally is big on the environment, so let's throw her in the liberal box." Don't bother to ask how Sally feels about Capital punishment, abortion, etc -- Since we already know the answers. She's a liberal now, because she is concerned with the environment.

"Oh Ted, he likes his guns and just bought a new one!" Oh, let's just throw Ted in the republican shoebox and now suddenly we know all about how Ted feels if you abort a baby or cut a welfare check for someone."

That's why when you make a statement like "Your political bias is showing," it actually says, "I'm done trying to understand your worldview so I'm going to throw you in a political shoebox."

The fact that you suddenly see a bias in me says more about the bias that actually resides in you.
 
i hope global warming is for real....how great would it be if NY was 60 in the winter and 90 in the summer???? then all the new Yorkers would stop coming to Florida...maybe the damn Canadians too!!!:D
 
Think about it for a moment, free of politcal bias.

Which is potentially a greater danger.

Terrorism, or pollution?

Quote from aphexcoil:

Political Bias? How so? We live in a world filled with biases. I'm sure what you believe to be correct is correct in your world. Likewise, the things John Doe believes is correct in his worldview, but not necessarily in yours.

Republican / Liberal .... Reactionary / Communist ... Fasict, Anarchist, Centrist, etc. These are nice convenient words to pigeonhole someone's views. See, we live in a world where many people are too lazy to want to take the time to truly understand another man's political views. So instead, we invent words like "conservative" or "liberal" as a shoebox to throw people in.

"Oh, Sally is big on the environment, so let's throw her in the liberal box." Don't bother to ask how Sally feels about Capital punishment, abortion, etc -- Since we already know the answers. She's a liberal now, because she is concerned with the environment.

"Oh Ted, he likes his guns and just bought a new one!" Oh, let's just throw Ted in the republican shoebox and now suddenly we know all about how Ted feels if you abort a baby or cut a welfare check for someone."

That's why when you make a statement like "Your political bias is showing," it actually says, "I'm done trying to understand your worldview so I'm going to throw you in a political shoebox."

The fact that you suddenly see a bias in me says more about the bias that actually resides in you.
 
Quote from TM_Direct:

i hope global warming is for real....how great would it be if NY was 60 in the winter and 90 in the summer???? then all the new Yorkers would stop coming to Florida...maybe the damn Canadians too!!!:D

agree that would be welcomed by canadians.... but with the polar melting and raising of ocean levels, wouldn't be much of Florida left to visit anyway :p
 
Quote from ARogueTrader:

"However, right now the only thing politicians are doing when it comes to preaching about global warming is playing the emotional card on a lot of people who don't know much more than what they hear on the 10 o'clock news before going to bed."

However, right now the only thing politicians are doing when it comes to preaching about terrorism is playing the emotional card on a lot of people who don't know much more than what they hear on the 10 o'clock news before going to bed.

Your political bias is showing young Aphie.

Global warming didn't blow up the World Trade Center. Any danger from it is purely theoretical.


The only damage global warming has done is to the careers of academic and government scientists who have voiced skepticism.
 
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