Judith Curry is another paid shill, she is DIRECTLY paid by oil companies, forget groupthink, she is a groupshill. And what groupthink is she talking about anyway, she has always called climate change a hoax since she started getting paid for it.
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Judith Curry is another paid shill, she is DIRECTLY paid by oil companies, forget groupthink, she is a groupshill. And what groupthink is she talking about anyway, she has always called climate change a hoax since she started getting paid for it.
Can YOU follow an argument? My exact words were "Is your local power company using coal? Then stop using electricity. Go back to the stone age until you get solar or wind"
If your local power supplier is using coal, you are part of the problem. Stop using electricity until you get clean power.
why? are you doing for co2 reasons or overpopulation / earth resource reasons.
1st... let congratulate you.. I admire your desire to sacrifice for others...
but...
1. you realize that if the world is over populated and running out of food we need more co2 to green the earth?
I also note... for those who care... you all are supporting the wrong policy...
... you know western libs are full of shit because if they cared they would be supporting closed borders and that instead of allowing immigrants to go to 1st world countries, 1st world countries should be exporting people to 3rd world countries. Instead of bring people up to western consumption levels and co2 footprints we should be going the opposite way.
1st... let congratulate you.. I admire your desire to sacrifice for others...
but...
1. you realize that if the world is over populated and running out of food we need more co2 to green the earth?
I also note... for those who care... you all are supporting the wrong policy...
... you know western libs are full of shit because if they cared they would be supporting closed borders and that instead of allowing immigrants to go to 1st world countries, 1st world countries should be exporting people to 3rd world countries. Instead of bring people up to western consumption levels and co2 footprints we should be going the opposite way.
AGAIN, nobody is advocating that the current coal powered company be shut down without alternatives, what one is advocating is that the transition should happen as it has happened elsewhere in the world. Your argument is a complete strawman and ridiculous which is the only way you can address this issue. It's the same, 'stop driving' bullshit, you guys cannot address the topic logically so you resort to argument ad stupidum.
So what you're saying is that you're not going to lift a finger to help fight climate change, you expect someone else to force everyone to do it. How about at least going vegan? If everyone did that, 9% of CO2 emmisions would be reduced instantly. Or at least tell me you drive an fuel economical car. Tell me your doing SOMETHING to help fight climate change.
Or maybe you secretly believe like me that climate change has nothing to do with man and it's just a normal cycle.
You know...just like the global warming on Pluto right now is a normal event.
http://news.mit.edu/2002/pluto
If I was saying any of that then I would actually say that, no need to put words into my mouth just because you cannot actually argue what I said instead of attacking a strawman.
First let me say that the issues regarding renewable power in Germany have been well covered in German publications including Spiegel and newspapers. This included documented coverage of summer days where renewables provided near 100% of the power in the country, the risks of excess power taking out the grid, and the winter days where renewables & traditional utility power nearly came up short. Covered in detail in the German media is the financial fiasco where wind power is being taken off-line after it was put in place at significant expense.
There is not a "grid across the EU" being built. While there has been much fanfare from the Union for the Coordination of Transmission of Electricity (UCTE) about the Synchronous Grid. This is all about keeping the status quo and allowing the trading of electricity, not about evolving to an advanced infrastructure. While there are interconnects using traditional overhead transmission in place across national borders to share power via electricity sales; each country effectively maintains its own national grid. Nor could the European cross-border transmission structure possibly power Germany on a low day from sunny Italy - a mere 1% of the power needs would be met from cross-border arrangements.
The issue with Germany (and Europe) gets back to the grid. Basically the entire continent (just like the U.S.) has an aging power infrastructure based on a hub & spoke architecture using traditional power plants. Adding a few more transmission power meters and few more transmission lines does not magically enable the European power infrastructure to become a "smart grid".
In order to support a "green" distributed power network which is reliable, a modern micro-grid architecture must be put in place to support the distribution of power across the local & distant areas. The modern grid must include necessary local back-up (small gas power plants) that only need to be used as lulls (in winter for instance), support large-scale net-metering (customer selling power back from the solar array on their roof), and full monitoring/routing capability of power in real-time with predictive support.
I am a huge supporter of green power. However in order for either Europe or America to properly implement it, the power grid will need to be re-designed and nearly completely re-implemented. This would be a very significant cost that power companies do not want to take on (what is the benefit to them?). It would require government mandates and money to drive this type of change to create a modern smart grid which support distributed green power.
The other thing to keep in mind is that while the Green Party in Germany may think the idea of implementing green power to support "climate change" is great -- the actual driver for Germany to make this change to renewables is to reduce their dependency on using natural gas to generate power from an unfriendly power (Russia). This drives the decision to revert to using existing coal power (to replace the removed wind power) instead of adding natural gas power plants. This, of course, will hold back any evolution to having small natural gas power plants as a local back-up to renewable power.
Why would we ever want to waste a bunch of money on renewables when we are sitting on a mountain of coal and nat gas? This is merely a tactic by the evil Europeans to hamper our efforts to MAGA. The best way to do that is to build a big wall and burn as much coal, oil and nat gas as possible. A little warming would be a great thing for the US, as idiots from NY and NJ would not be so desperate to migrate to Palm Beach and Boca.
All of the climate scientist are paid shills. Their jobs depend on pushing the climate change agenda.
Then do explain how a Koch funded skeptic who analyzed the data himself says it's real? He was paid to prove the opposite and yet he says climate change is real.
"CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the-conversion-of-a-climate-change-skeptic.html