This is the last move for Crude --shaping up just like the wheat trade!

I know one firm's chief global strategist said it would take a "terrorist" event in the straight of hormuz to get oil over $100.

Economists don't make good traders... Right now, I would encourage everyone to question the mainstream economists' position that we will skirt a recession!

:D
 
Quote from Landis82:

Is this why Retail Sales for April were better than expected and 19 out of 28 retailers beat estimates???

In fact, The UBS-International Council of Shopping Centers retail sales tally for April rose 3.6%, surpassing the 2% growth estimate.

Wait a minute Landis, are you actually referring to DATA in an ET post to support your assertions?

You'll just confuse everyone here if you use hifalutin concepts like actual economic numbers.
 
Quote from Cutten:
Which economist said unemployment would hit 20% and a major world depression would ensue if oil hit $60 or $90? I don't know of a single one, let alone a consensus.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB111270255444198252.html

Economists Tear Up Last Year's Predictions
On the Price Level That Would Stifle Growth
By TIM ANNETT
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE
April 7, 2005

SHIFTING THE GOAL POSTS

[I made this screenshot from the WSJ article which sums up the survey]

opd5bp.jpg


"Economists and others are perhaps still struggling to understand how oil prices affect the economy," says John Lonski of Moody's Investors Service, who was among the economists who said in August that oil in the range of $50 to $59 could provoke a recession, but who now say it would take oil prices of more than $80 to slow economic growth.
 
Quote from Cutten:

that market moves are not normally distributed?

If the normal distribution does not describe market price moves, then it doesn't matter if you wait 1, 2, 3 or 4 more standard deviations, you will still eventually get f*cked when an outlier move occurs.

Actually its something called the central limit theorem, if you add up enough random kicks, you will always get a normal distribution (This is of course subject to the assumption that the kicks are drawn from distributions with a finite variance). But as far as anyone can tell markets follow a normal distribution over the long term. Sure not over the next minute or even the next week, but over a period in excess of a month they follow a Normal Distribution.

But do remember the distribution is of the returns.

So the idea that that Oil could double over the next year is not impossible, but its highly unlikely in the next week.

Surely as the price of Oil, Steel, Wool, Rice starts to bite at some point demand drops off and when demand drops off the prices will come down.

Now if I knew that point ...
And I had the balls to hold it...
 
Quote from dont:

Actually its something called the central limit theorem, if you add up enough random kicks, you will always get a normal distribution (This is of course subject to the assumption that the kicks are drawn from distributions with a finite variance). But as far as anyone can tell markets follow a normal distribution over the long term. Sure not over the next minute or even the next week, but over a period in excess of a month they follow a Normal Distribution.

But do remember the distribution is of the returns.

So the idea that that Oil could double over the next year is not impossible, but its highly unlikely in the next week.

Surely as the price of Oil, Steel, Wool, Rice starts to bite at some point demand drops off and when demand drops off the prices will come down.

Now if I knew that point ...
And I had the balls to hold it...

You have no idea how right you are! :cool:
 
Quote from BlueStreek:

Iran knows what is up, they are storing so much crude in their ports that they can`t sell, oil consumption is slowing down bigtime, just read what the EIA says.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/24554092


This is the biggest market scam since the housing bubble!



Its all about greed, you should know that by now, the oil bubble will end the same as all bubbles do....Oil will correct just as every bubble has in the past, ask those that were buying Lycos, Cmgi, INKT or even putting money down on condos in the florida area well before the development even broke ground. All bubble burst and so will this one.
 
Quote from S2007S:

Its all about greed, you should know that by now, the oil bubble will end the same as all bubbles do....Oil will correct just as every bubble has in the past, ask those that were buying Lycos, Cmgi, INKT or even putting money down on condos in the florida area well before the development even broke ground. All bubble burst and so will this one.

and this makes it the top just because you are short? do you just like fighting trends with no real catalysts for them to end? and why am i asking when i already know the answer?
 
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