No. What I remember are these fucking kids who would barely lift a finger to help in a service-based economy, lolly-gagging and doing NOTHING. So I had to run around doing their jobs for them, on top of my own job, so the overall job got done.
Things are still shit in the HOOD.
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No. What I remember are these fucking kids who would barely lift a finger to help in a service-based economy, lolly-gagging and doing NOTHING. So I had to run around doing their jobs for them, on top of my own job, so the overall job got done.
Sure and at that time you and your likes still earned a good living wage relatively speaking. Same as my generation, gen X. Since then wages have gone down inflation adjusted and investors have become wealthier than ever before. I don't comprehend that the value added of a CEO today is over a 100 fold higher than the value added of a CEO in your or my generation. Heck, no CEO today would ever work for a cash only job ever, even if you paid him a million a year. And since when is a worker worth less than it was worth 30 years ago. If anything workers are more productive today than before. Yet the gap has widened to intolerable levels.
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BULLSHIT. The biggest sector in this service-based economy is retail. Walk into any retail establishment today, and your level of service is 10% of what it was when people actually gave a DAMN about their job.
Walk into any big-box retailer and attempt to find a quality worker who is happy about having his job, enjoys his job, and helps your service with a smile like the service with a star.
Really? I get asked whether I need help each time I set foot into a store. What are you talking about. Did you get sucked off each time in the past? That explains the massive decline?... ;-)
I precisely don't get your point. That's what I keep saying. No one is forcing the employee to work for a wage. They work fully knowing what they will get. I didnt like making $800 a month at Wendy's (it wasnt a bad job per se, but the money). I did what I had to in life to get to where I wanted to be, and continue working to get there. I dont stand around whining how life is unfair and I deserve more and then accept where I am. It's why I have zero sympathy for those that do have this attitude.
There are plenty of resources to better yourself, your life, your prospects. Dont want to apply for school loans, grants, scholarships because you dont want student loans okay. That's your decision. Dont want to get a 2nd job to put away money to invest in yourself, that's your decision. But if you think I'm going to give a fuck about these people after what I've gone through to get here then you're crazy.
There are so many jobs and second jobs. There are entry level positions in warehouses that start out $15+. Problem is Millennials and Gen Z are fucking soft and lazy and entitled. That's cool. It's even funnier watching them year after year thinking the politicians are going to screw over the businesses paying taxes and kickbacks to them for this same group of lazy and entitled generation that is basically worthless. As stated, they will just keep telling you what you want to hear, but they will never push it through.
Is that clear enough how much I do not get or agree with your point?
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I said BIG-BOX, which is where most retail workers work. Maybe you live in some podunk town where there is no business, but in dense areas, nobody gives a shit about their jobs.
From my office window in downtown Denver, I (unfortunately) look into a block of neighboring apartments. New guy, 30ish, moved in on the 5th floor. Today, I watched him smoke weed from a bong on his porch on 3 occasions over the 5.5 hours I was at my desk. He was "working from home", I guess?
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What you don't get Bugsy? If they don't take the job then you pay for massive social welfare through tax increases to the tune of trillions. The economy is glued together by people who work menial jobs at pitiful wages. Or who picks up your trash or picks your oranges? I don't understand why we are stuck in this conversation. To me this is a total no-brainer. Are you happier with 40 to 60 million unemployed who you need to pay for via welfare because they would otherwise crawl across your wall, break into your home, and take what they need to prevent them and their families from dying. The currently defined poverty line cannot even be reached with 7 dollar something wages.
If you prefer for everyone with a good job or business to hire a host of personal security and 20 foot high walls and an arsenal of automatic rifles to defend yourself against the guaranteed onslaught then be my guest. Because the drama already plays out in Realtime right in front of our eyes. You really think thugs are gonna stay in the inner cities forever? At some time they are gonna come for you and your wife and your kids. Not just to feed themselves. But to revenge the blatant ignorance of the few at the top end of the ladder. Most every other western nation gets it and strives for a fairer society where the middle class is well taken care of and motivated. Only in the US are workers treated like shit and spat on in exchange for their labor just because they don't have that shiny ridiculous little graduation certificate hanging on their walls. It comes down to an utter disrespect and ignorance towards those in our midst who are less fortunate or even those who made more mistakes than us. Unforgiveness and resentment is what will break the camel's back. A siloed society where those who don't belong in our circle can as well die right away.
If you prefer for everyone with a good job or business to hire a host of personal security and 20 foot high walls and an arsenal of automatic rifles to defend yourself against the guaranteed onslaught then be my guest. Because the drama already plays out in Realtime right in front of our eyes. You really think thugs are gonna stay in the inner cities forever? At some time they are gonna come for you and your wife and your kids. Not just to feed themselves. But to revenge the blatant ignorance of the few at the top end of the ladder. Most every other western nation gets it and strives for a fairer society where the middle class is well taken care of and motivated. Only in the US are workers treated like shit and spat on in exchange for their labor just because they don't have that shiny ridiculous little graduation certificate hanging on their walls. It comes down to an utter disrespect and ignorance towards those in our midst who are less fortunate or even those who made more mistakes than us. Unforgiveness and resentment is what will break the camel's back. A siloed society where those who don't belong in our circle can as well die right away.
I was once the president (volunteer) of a professional organization in Denver. Historically, the volunteer leadership had been almost exclusively boomer, gen-x, and older. Pretty good sense of duty, willingness to preserve the legacy of the organization, willingness to sacrifice personal glory for the good of the organization, very rarely quit.
During my 4 year tenure, I believe we had 5 millenials join the executive committee. Of that 5, 2 quit in the middle of their tenure, 2 went AWOL, and 1 was OK. It was almost unbelieveable.
I've hired millenials and they never seem to last. Always searching for their "calling" or their "passion", but leave a trail of burned bridges behind them. They are expecting far too much from a job or a career.
I hate to cast aspersions upon an entire generation, and obviously not all millenials are duds, but there was definitely something in the Kool-aid that their boomer parents gave them.
During my 4 year tenure, I believe we had 5 millenials join the executive committee. Of that 5, 2 quit in the middle of their tenure, 2 went AWOL, and 1 was OK. It was almost unbelieveable.
I've hired millenials and they never seem to last. Always searching for their "calling" or their "passion", but leave a trail of burned bridges behind them. They are expecting far too much from a job or a career.
I hate to cast aspersions upon an entire generation, and obviously not all millenials are duds, but there was definitely something in the Kool-aid that their boomer parents gave them.