There's something wrong with human nature.

Quote from piezoe:

Vhehn, I don't use illegal drugs so my perspective is perhaps different from that of a user. It seems to me though that we have good examples of what happens in societies where drug use is tolerated and treated more as a medical problem than as a crime. Why don't we just look carefully at those examples and decide whether there is a better outcome available if we were to alter our drug policies in the US? It seems we are not behaving rationally.
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ok show me a society that allows hard drug use where that drug use does not destroy the individual and that destruction does not have a cost to the society.
i do agree that we should treat it as a medical problem but what do you do when the individual scoffs at you when you tell him his habit is destructive and he should get treatment.i used to run a business,a trucking company, that had a lot of drug use among the employees and i can hell you they are not good employees. do we just have to accept more of this just so druggies can have their freedoms?
http://wcbstv.com/local/taconic.state.parkway.2.1114132.html
 
i used to run a business,a trucking company,

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Just curious, do you follow any trucking co stocks or transportation?
 
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i used to run a business,a trucking company,

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Just curious, do you follow any trucking co stocks or transportation?
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no. i have been retired from that business for many years now. there are much better industries to invest in. trucking sucks as a business. anybody can buy a pos truck and call themselves a trucking business. no barrier to entry.
if you had to buy a trucking related stock something like chrw is a place to look. they get a cut off the top of every freight load they book without any of the expenses.
 
anybody can buy a pos truck and call themselves a trucking business.

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lol. me - gypsy mover.:D

Seriously, I agree. I can recall one trucking stock I followed and that was a few years ago, just not interested.
 
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Narcissistic personality disorder

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
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Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with your diagnosis- LoZZZer is definitely NOT a narcissist!

While it certainly lacks <b>positive</b> empathy, the troll is overwhelmed with feelings of <b>negative</b> empathy, i.e. sadism. Its entire raison d'être is to feed off the negative emotions of others- emotions that would barely even register (or matter) to a true narcissist.

A narcissist is almost always of neutral alignment (usually chaotic-neutral), not caring enough for the feelings of others to go out of his way to help them (=good) or hurt them (=evil).
 
I grant you expertise in narcissism, after all you did admit to same...

However, that abundant narcissism of yours disqualifies you to evaluate others, simply because your filtering mechanism is so far turned inward toward admiration of yourself as to fully distort any accurate view of others...

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with your diagnosis- LoZZZer is definitely NOT a narcissist!

While it certainly lacks <b>positive</b> empathy, the troll is overwhelmed with feelings of <b>negative</b> empathy, i.e. sadism. Its entire raison d'être is to feed off the negative emotions of others- emotions that would barely even register (or matter) to a true narcissist.

A narcissist is almost always of neutral alignment (usually chaotic-neutral), not caring enough for the feelings of others to go out of his way to help them (=good) or hurt them (=evil).
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RM,

This may cause you to reflect a bit:

http://www.amazon.com/Seeds-Terror-...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260313824&sr=8-1

Seeds of Terror: How Heroin Is Bankrolling the Taliban and al Qaeda (Hardcover)
~ Gretchen Peters
Gretchen Peters (Author)

I only browsed through this book. What I found most interesting is that the regions that are hardest hit with new drug addicts, the "civilians", turn out to have been unexpected in my mind at least. It turns out that the population of the countries bordering or near Afghanistan are the hardest hit, e.g., Pakistan, Iraq, etc, not the intended targets of "western infidels."

Anyway, I thought you might find it interesting.
 
Quote from vhehn:

ok show me a society that allows hard drug use where that drug use does not destroy the individual and that destruction does not have a cost to the society.
i do agree that we should treat it as a medical problem but what do you do when the individual scoffs at you when you tell him his habit is destructive and he should get treatment.i used to run a business,a trucking company, that had a lot of drug use among the employees and i can hell you they are not good employees. do we just have to accept more of this just so druggies can have their freedoms?
http://wcbstv.com/local/taconic.state.parkway.2.1114132.html
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Vhehn, we are in complete agreement, drug use can destroy lives and damage society. I'm thinking though that the way the US treats drug use may be more harmful and destroy more lives than the way some other countries treat drug use. I don't know the answer, but just asking the question. If some other country is doing better than we are at this, then why not model our approach after theirs?

We both know that making drug use illegal and throwing those you can catch in jail hasn't stopped drug use and hasn't stopped people from being harmed by drug use, so is there a better approach that would ideally lessen the use of illicit drugs and at least result in lower cost and less harm to society?
 
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