There is no heaven no hell

Quote from stu:

Try reasoning for once instead of just name calling and you might become better informed.

Which creator , what creator?
Naturalistic or supernatural?

The least doubt at the moment is for the existence of another witless response from you brainlessly repeating your question begging question.

Try answering the question. Asking for more specificity is a dodge and completely expected from you. It is right out of your troll playbook chapter 3. The chapter which comes after the chapter where you explain how you typically insert a clause after your statement which cancels out the substance or lack of substance in your main statement.
 
Quote from Ricter:

"The fact is that this is what society is and always has been: a symbolic action system, a structure of statuses and roles, customs and rules for behavior, designed to serve as a vehicle for earthly heroism. Each script is somewhat unique, each culture has a different hero system. What the anthropologists call "cultural relativity" is thus really the relativity of hero-systems the world over. But each cultural system is a dramatization of earthly heroics; each system cuts out roles for performances of various degrees of heroism: from the "high" heroism of a Churchill, a Mao, or a Buddha, to the "low" heroism of the coal miner, the peasant, the simple priest; the plain, everyday, earthy heroism wrought by gnarled working hands guiding a family through hunger and disease.

It doesn't matter whether the cultural hero-system is frankly magical, religious, and primitive or secular, scientific, and civilized. It is still a mythical hero-system in which people serve in order to earn a feeling of primary value, or cosmic specialness, or ultimate usefulness to creation, of unshakable meaning. They earn this feeling by carving out a place in nature, by building an edifice that reflects human value: a temple, a cathedral, a totem pole, a skyscraper, a family that spans three generations. The hope and belief is that the things that man creates in society are of lasting worth and meaning, that they outlive or outshine death and decay, that man and his products count. ..."

- Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death
Still can't impose a religion on anyone, whether it's wrapped up and smoked screened by a ton of hyperbole like that or not.

Describing the act of existence and reactions to it as heroic, is simply messing around with language, and depicting every action as a mythical hero-system is just a crude and absurd mangling of words and actuality .
 
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