There is no evidence of Russian collusion except

If there was collusion it would've been leaked already, anyone thinking there's going to be anything coming from this has a slim chance of seeing anything substantial.

With that said, there was DEFINITELY interference. I don't doubt that for a bit. Russia has a huge payroll just for that sort of thing. They pride themselves on it. I also think that there's plenty of people on Trump's team that can be compromised by their relations. That last part is where they really need to start digging.

I'm not in the hate Trump camp (I don't think he's been as bad as the media likes to make it seem) but I do worry about some of the interests of those associated with him.
 
athlonmank8 said:
Yeah, we definitely have a liability with his crew. Russia knew what they were doing when they chose the side they did.
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And to be candid, I do think Trump is as bad as the media makes him seem because they are reporting on what he says and does, quite apart from the innuendo and speculation. Sure, he's willing to do for the country whatever it takes, but only if it also serves his personal interests and keeps him in the media spotlight. His personal interests and endless media coverage come first. You will recall instances where he was unhappy to have been upstaged by his subordinates or anyone else. It's all about him. Trump is all about Trump.

Consider the above and his somewhat shady past business dealings that have been reported in the media. The man is hubris personified. I think such people tend to color outside the lines as a matter of course, and Trump is more the exemplar than the exception. I think Mueller will find dirt on him, if he hasn't already. And I think it will leave a mark.
 
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exGOPer said:
Don Jr. about meeting with Russian government lawyer 'I LOVE IT"

He left that out of his security clearance forms and LIED about it for a year.

That's the definition of collusion aka secret meetings that you lie about.
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So, you admit that your OP was misleading and contains lies?
 
lylec305 said:
Once Trump is proven innocent
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But I'll try to keep and open mind...
 
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