Theological discusssion

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Quote from stu:

What do you think he'd say?

The science used to discover, to increase knowledge, is an entirely different thing altogether than any questions of ethics in the possible application of it.

No, imo, He'd say the same thing as Anthony Flew, Alister McGrath and many many more Christian/Deists Scientists in that Science can not disprove the existence of God and should not be used as a platform to try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alister_McGrath
 
Quote from stu:

What are you talking about? No one was saying there is a compulsory way of viewing reality.

Glad you clarified your belief. So, the scientific worldview is a choice, thus it is no more true than other worldviews, unless we restrict ourselves to science's definition of truth which, fortunately, we don't have to (and billions don't want to).
 
Quote from Wallet:

No, imo, He'd say the same thing as Anthony Flew, Alister McGrath and many many more Christian/Deists Scientists in that Science can not disprove the existence of God and should not be used as a platform to try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alister_McGrath
But science is not used as such a platform. For one thing science does not deal in pure speculation without verifiable corroboration. That’s what religion’s for.
Though theists and religious believers here in this thread would use science as a platform for religion if they could.

Using quite ridiculous nonsensical argument, trying to drag religion toward science by suggesting that in the end, science is only belief , or science can't be validated higher than people therefore absurdly inferring it's on a par with science.

You have however showed how the point stands. Science and religion will remain separate, incompatible. Not on the same platform.
They reach entirely different conclusions by completely different means. Science essentially is rational. Religion not.

You can't start to determine scientifically the non existence of something like God when that something is not testable or even defined properly.
That's where religion, make believe, pretence, runaway imagination, is useful for creating such concepts.
But they can't be tested, and as it is for fairies and all other sorts of supernatural things, God definitions change at every turn.

It's just not science.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Glad you clarified your belief. So, the scientific worldview is a choice, thus it is no more true than other worldviews, unless we restrict ourselves to science's definition of truth which, fortunately, we don't have to (and billions don't want to).

It's not my belief, you're misinformed.
If you describe science as a worldview of course it's more true than others. It's the scientific method that discovers confirms and establishes fact.
You don't want to believe true science? Then fine, be that ridiculous, your prerogative.

You are of course entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.
 
Quote from stu:

It's not my belief, you're misinformed.
If you describe science as a worldview of course it's more true than others.

No, it isn't, because what is "true" is debatable.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." — Delos Banning McKown

Wow, I really like that quote! It really sums up the world debate on the existence of God!
 
Quote from tradinglucy:

Wow, I really like that quote! It really sums up the world debate on the existence of God!

another similar one

If we were made in god's image why aren't we invisible too?
 
Quote from tradinglucy:

Wow, I really like that quote! It really sums up the world debate on the existence of God!
how about this one:

Justin Brown If the Bible is mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust it to tell us where we're going?
 
Quote from Ricter:

No, it isn't, because what is "true" is debatable.
If what's true is debatable, why are you calling it true in the first place.
 
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