Theologians Think They’re Smarter Than Stephen Hawking

[Ricter]

Quote from jem:

That is what I have been telling you. There is no evidence co2 is causing the warming...

But CO2 does cause warming. If I drop a cloche over my tomato starts today, the air around them warms, not because the sun is any brighter or because the sun is any closer, but because the heat, the same heat, radiating from the ground is trapped, slowed by the glass. Thus CO2, which demonstrably traps and slows the radiation of heat, does cause warming.

Now, let's say I leave the cloche there "forever". Variations in solar output and Earth's orbit will change the interior temperature of the cloche. Without further variables added, this cycle will continue so long as the cycles of sun and orbit continue. But suppose I come along and add a slightly larger cloche over the first, in effect creating a double-walled mini-greenhouse. Now the insulative effect of the cloche is greater, and the temperature inside will rise still more, and it will be trapped longer.

This is why, if you can afford it, you want a double-walled greenhouse instead of single-walled.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from piezoe:

It is well known that Barack Obama had a superior education from his early childhood on. Of all the U.S. Presidents so far, Obama is not only one of the best educated, but he also has one of the most extensive records as a scholar. He graduated from Columbia University in political science, and from the Harvard Law School magna cum laude, which is impossible if your grades are not outstanding.

He was first an editor at the Harvard Law Review, and later elected to head the Review.

He was a lecturer in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago for twelve years....

Isn't affirmative action great?

 

[jem]

Quote from Ricter:

But CO2 does cause warming. If I drop a cloche over my tomato starts today, the air around them warms, not because the sun is any brighter or because the sun is any closer, but because the heat, the same heat, radiating from the ground is trapped, slowed by the glass. Thus CO2, which demonstrably traps and slows the radiation of heat, does cause warming.

Now, let's say I leave the cloche there "forever". Variations in solar output and Earth's orbit will change the interior temperature of the cloche. Without further variables added, this cycle will continue so long as the cycles of sun and orbit continue. But suppose I come along and add a slightly larger cloche over the first, in effect creating a double-walled mini-greenhouse. Now the insulative effect of the cloche is greater, and the temperature inside will rise still more, and it will be trapped longer.

This is why, if you can afford it, you want a double-walled greenhouse instead of single-walled.

now who decides if the greenhouse is double walled. the co2?

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from piezoe:

Jem, you should stop this nonsense now. I does not reflect well on your own intelligence.

It is well known that Barack Obama had a superior education from his early childhood on. Of all the U.S. Presidents so far, Obama is not only one of the best educated, but he also has one of the most extensive records as a scholar. He graduated from Columbia University in political science, and from the Harvard Law School magna cum laude, which is impossible if your grades are not outstanding.

He was first an editor at the Harvard Law Review, and later elected to head the Review.

He was a lecturer in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago for twelve years.

Please do not clutter these forums with any more crap.

Well perhaps he's brilliant in his stupidity.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from jem:

now who decides if the greenhouse is double walled. the co2?

We do. In my analogy it happens here:

"...I come along and add a slightly larger cloche..."

 

[jem]

Quote from Ricter:

We do. In my analogy it happens here:

"...I come along and add a slightly larger cloche..."

therefore the co2 does not cause the temperature increase. it was you. just like it is the warming activity which causes the CO2 (the glass) to become thicker.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from jem:

therefore the co2 does not cause the temperature increase. it was you. just like it is the warming activity which causes the CO2 (the glass) to become thicker.

I started it when I added the CO2 (the cloche), but I didn't do it.

Hey, it was the actually the bullet which parted the guy's flesh causing the shock and bleeding which killed him, I never touched him!

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Publicus:

With regard to global warming-

Don't forget, every time the scientist-activists meet to discuss global warming, there are more hacked emails from the scientist-activists that are released

Remember someone hacked a lot of the emails when the scientist-activists didn't want to release their data?

Go to those emails. The scientist-activists are openly plotting how to influence public opinion in ways that have nothing to do with science!!

Simply speaking, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and there is absolutely no merit to the crap you just said. Easy on the drugs there dude. And get your tin foil hat on.

 

[futurecurrents]

I'm starting to think jem is just here to raise page views, or maybe he works for the Koch bros.

There is no way someone could possibly be as dense, intentionally obtuse, blind and just all around illogical as jem has been here with regard to GW unless it is intentional. An 8 year old would have better comprehension of principles. You have to try very hard to be as stupid as jem has been here.

I commend you Richter for your patience but jem is hopeless. At least he provides a good example of how lame the denier "argument" is and gives us a platform to maybe educate some more open minded folks here. Everyone here with more than half a brain reading this knows what we're talking about and can understand the simple logic that more CO2 raises temps and the extra CO2 is almost all from the burning of fossil fuels.

 

[jem]

Quote from futurecurrents:

I'm starting to think jem is just here to raise page views, or maybe he works for the Koch bros.

There is no way someone could possibly be as dense, intentionally obtuse, blind and just all around illogical as jem has been here with regard to GW unless it is intentional. An 8 year old would have better comprehension of principles. You have to try very hard to be as stupid as jem has been here.

I commend you Richter for your patience but jem is hopeless. At least he provides a good example of how lame the denier "argument" is and gives us a platform to maybe educate some more open minded folks here. Everyone here with more than half a brain reading this knows what we're talking about and can understand the simple logic that more CO2 raises temps and the extra CO2 is almost all from the burning of fossil fuels.

you are so dense you do not realize that when Ricter blames the bullet for the damage he is joking. He gracefully conceded I have a valid position.