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Theologians Think Theyâre Smarter Than Stephen Hawking
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Quote from jem:
you said you had proof from ice cores you lying pos. wasting my time.
Oooo getting testy are we? That cognitive dissonance is getting to you huh? Is CO2 a greenhouse gas or what? Are you that stupid that you can not see how the increase of a greenhouse gas could cause temps to rise ?
http://www.rtcc.org/learning/research-breakthrough-co2-rises-caused-warming-that-ended-last-ice-age/
Quote from futurecurrents:
Oooo getting testy are we? That cognitive dissonance is getting to you huh? Is CO2 a greenhouse gas or what? Are you that stupid that you can not see how the increase of a greenhouse gas could cause temps to rise ?
http://www.rtcc.org/learning/research-breakthrough-co2-rises-caused-warming-that-ended-last-ice-age/
Now I know why you were holding that one back. it is exactly what I think prspr (whoever the guy who was leading the science on this issue on et is) and I have been telling you is the most likely model.
Did you note.. that as temperatures warmed in the southern hemisphere CO2 was released? That is an exact model for what I have been trying to tell you. CO2 rises after sun or currents or some other change cause warming.
Wow... you can have all your b.s. clmatalogists and al goreons turn on their brains now. Even now the climatologists are still guessing CO2 was amplifier... but surprise surprise... it is not the cause.
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Most scientists, according to Shakun, now believe the first factor in rising temperatures in Antarctica was not carbon dioxide emissions but a change in the Earthâs orbit, which resulted in more sunlight hitting the northern hemisphere.
As ice sheets over North America and Europe melted, millions of gallons of freshwater flooded into the North Atlantic Ocean and disrupted the cyclical flow of ocean currents."
This meant the current which normally brings warm water north from the tropics â and today keeps Europe mild â was blocked, and the Southern Hemisphere warmed at the expense of the Northern Hemisphere â melting Antarctic ice and drawing up CO2 from the deep water.
Shakun says this all points towards CO2 being an amplifier for warming in the Southern Hemisphere.
He said: âIf it was an amplifier, the question is how big an amplifier? Does it explain a lot of climate change, or was it a small piece and other factors were more important? I think this research really points a strong finger at the idea that CO2 was a major player.â
Many theologians are smarter than Hawking. Jewish Physicist Susskind bet Hawking information was not lost in black holes Hawking said yes.
Hawking lost miserably.
The human brain has got things wrong for tens of thousands of years, on every topic that exists. Physicists will find where they are wrong now, in the coming years, it's the nature of the biz.
God, or whatever is the ultimate reality, doesn't get stuff wrong. Only the human brain gets stuff wrong.
Hawking lost miserably.
The human brain has got things wrong for tens of thousands of years, on every topic that exists. Physicists will find where they are wrong now, in the coming years, it's the nature of the biz.
God, or whatever is the ultimate reality, doesn't get stuff wrong. Only the human brain gets stuff wrong.
Quote from Publicus:
Many theologians are smarter than Hawking. Jewish Physicist Susskind bet Hawking information was not lost in black holes Hawking said yes.
Hawking lost miserably.
The human brain has got things wrong for tens of thousands of years, on every topic that exists. Physicists will find where they are wrong now, in the coming years, it's the nature of the biz.
God, or whatever is the ultimate reality, doesn't get stuff wrong. Only the human brain gets stuff wrong.
Oh yeah, get Susskind's book. Great stuff. Hawking got stuff wrong that a talented physics undergrad would not have got wrong.
Susskind calls him out. Hawking has a personality that likes to be provocative. Sometimes the physics is there. Sometimes it's not.
Quote from jem:
Now I know why you were holding that one back.
Did you note.. that as temperatures warmed in the southern hemisphere CO2 was released? That is an exact model for what I have been trying to tell you. CO2 rises after sun or currents or some other change.
Wow... you can have all your climatologists apologize now. They are still guessing CO2 was amplifier... but surprise surprise... it is not the cause.
"
Most scientists, according to Shakun, now believe the first factor in rising temperatures in Antarctica was not carbon dioxide emissions but a change in the Earthâs orbit, which resulted in more sunlight hitting the northern hemisphere.
As ice sheets over North America and Europe melted, millions of gallons of freshwater flooded into the North Atlantic Ocean and disrupted the cyclical flow of ocean currents."
This meant the current which normally brings warm water north from the tropics â and today keeps Europe mild â was blocked, and the Southern Hemisphere warmed at the expense of the Northern Hemisphere â melting Antarctic ice and drawing up CO2 from the deep water.
Shakun says this all points towards CO2 being an amplifier for warming in the Southern Hemisphere.
He said: âIf it was an amplifier, the question is how big an amplifier? Does it explain a lot of climate change, or was it a small piece and other factors were more important? I think this research really points a strong finger at the idea that CO2 was a major player.â
Which article did YOU read ? "You see what you want to see, you hear what you want to hear"
. âEven more interesting, while CO2 trails Antarctica warming, it actually precedes global temperature change, which is what you would expect if CO2 is causing warming.â
and again, what happened in the past is academic. The fact is that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we have pumped huge quantities into the air raising the levels 30 - 40% and the temps are following suit.
I think it is important I cut and paste the whole article... cause this will disappear and be replaced with mgw loony speak soon.
http://www.rtcc.org/learning/research-breakthrough-co2-rises-caused-warming-that-ended-last-ice-age/
âNow CO2 levels are rising again, but this time an equivalent increase of CO2 has occurred in only about 200 years, and there are clear signs that the planet is already beginning to respond.â
âWhile many of the details of future climate change remain to be figured out, our study bolsters the consensus view that rising CO2 will lead to more global warming.â
While previous studies only compared carbon dioxide levels to local temperatures in Antarctica, the current study aimed to reconstruct global average temperature changes, using 80 core samples from around the world.
Looking only at local temperatures in Antarctica, warming appears to precede rising CO2, an argument often adopted by sceptics to disprove carbon dioxideâs role in global warming.
Shakun however, says this is leaving a huge gap in the research.
Putting all these records together into a reconstruction of global temperature shows a beautiful correlation with rising CO2 at the end of the Ice Age,â said Shakun. âEven more interesting, while CO2 trails Antarctica warming, it actually precedes global temperature change, which is what you would expect if CO2 is causing warming.â
Most scientists, according to Shakun, now believe the first factor in rising temperatures in Antarctica was not carbon dioxide emissions but a change in the Earthâs orbit, which resulted in more sunlight hitting the northern hemisphere.
As ice sheets over North America and Europe melted, millions of gallons of freshwater flooded into the North Atlantic Ocean and disrupted the cyclical flow of ocean currents.
Atmospheric CO2 compared to Antarctic temperature and global mean temperature at the end of the last ice age (© Jeremy Shakun)
This meant the current which normally brings warm water north from the tropics â and today keeps Europe mild â was blocked, and the Southern Hemisphere warmed at the expense of the Northern Hemisphere â melting Antarctic ice and drawing up CO2 from the deep water.
Shakun says this all points towards CO2 being an amplifier for warming in the Southern Hemisphere.
He said: âIf it was an amplifier, the question is how big an amplifier? Does it explain a lot of climate change, or was it a small piece and other factors were more important? I think this research really points a strong finger at the idea that CO2 was a major player.â
While the research strengthens the link between CO2 and the Ice Ages, Shakun believes it also reinforces the importance of addressing CO2 driven climate change today.
http://www.rtcc.org/learning/research-breakthrough-co2-rises-caused-warming-that-ended-last-ice-age/
âNow CO2 levels are rising again, but this time an equivalent increase of CO2 has occurred in only about 200 years, and there are clear signs that the planet is already beginning to respond.â
âWhile many of the details of future climate change remain to be figured out, our study bolsters the consensus view that rising CO2 will lead to more global warming.â
While previous studies only compared carbon dioxide levels to local temperatures in Antarctica, the current study aimed to reconstruct global average temperature changes, using 80 core samples from around the world.
Looking only at local temperatures in Antarctica, warming appears to precede rising CO2, an argument often adopted by sceptics to disprove carbon dioxideâs role in global warming.
Shakun however, says this is leaving a huge gap in the research.
Putting all these records together into a reconstruction of global temperature shows a beautiful correlation with rising CO2 at the end of the Ice Age,â said Shakun. âEven more interesting, while CO2 trails Antarctica warming, it actually precedes global temperature change, which is what you would expect if CO2 is causing warming.â
Most scientists, according to Shakun, now believe the first factor in rising temperatures in Antarctica was not carbon dioxide emissions but a change in the Earthâs orbit, which resulted in more sunlight hitting the northern hemisphere.
As ice sheets over North America and Europe melted, millions of gallons of freshwater flooded into the North Atlantic Ocean and disrupted the cyclical flow of ocean currents.
Atmospheric CO2 compared to Antarctic temperature and global mean temperature at the end of the last ice age (© Jeremy Shakun)
This meant the current which normally brings warm water north from the tropics â and today keeps Europe mild â was blocked, and the Southern Hemisphere warmed at the expense of the Northern Hemisphere â melting Antarctic ice and drawing up CO2 from the deep water.
Shakun says this all points towards CO2 being an amplifier for warming in the Southern Hemisphere.
He said: âIf it was an amplifier, the question is how big an amplifier? Does it explain a lot of climate change, or was it a small piece and other factors were more important? I think this research really points a strong finger at the idea that CO2 was a major player.â
While the research strengthens the link between CO2 and the Ice Ages, Shakun believes it also reinforces the importance of addressing CO2 driven climate change today.
Quote from futurecurrents:
Which article did YOU read ? "You see what you want to see, you hear what you want to hear"
. âEven more interesting, while CO2 trails Antarctica warming, it actually precedes global temperature change, which is what you would expect if CO2 is causing warming.â
and again, what happened in the past is academic. The fact is that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we have pumped huge quantities into the air raising the levels 30 - 40% and the temps are following suit.
lets try this again... for the mentally challenged global warming loons.
I will break it down like a 6th grade reading comprehension quiz.
- What came first ... warming activity or CO2 getting released from the deep? according to that article?
What do they speculate caused the warming?
Then is the CO2 amplification proven or is it just a speculative conclusion?
See if you can find the answer in the article.
answer choices for first question.
answer
a: screw you you are not an al goreon.
b. "Most scientists, according to Shakun, now believe the first factor in rising temperatures in Antarctica was not carbon dioxide emissions but a change in the Earthâs orbit, which resulted in more sunlight hitting the northern hemisphere."
c. CO2.
d. none.