Theologians Think They’re Smarter Than Stephen Hawking

Quote from jem:

Finally this is the troll comedy..

stu... claims that when I wrote...

"evolving universes signify the values"

_it is somehow different from -

when he wrote

"evolving universes signify the values"

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if evolving universes signify their values --- any way, one still has to explain why those values are so fine tuned for life... if you do not have a theory of everything.

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Things are not so fine-tuned for life on Mercury. There is no life within a black hole. No birds fly at the edge the galaxy. Given a multitude of conditions, at least one will prove suitable. If the conditions weren't conducive to life anywhere, there would be no-one to think how bad the conditions are.

Everything works together perfectly because it (the universe) was all one and the same at one time. A shattered marble of many different shaped bits can be reassembled into one no matter how many times the bits are broken. Are the bits fine-tuned ? No, they are just all from the same thing thus they fit together.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

I've said before and I'll say again. I think most of his "following" has more to do with sympathy for his physical condition than his intellect.



On a lighter note he does do a mean Peter Frampton impersonation.


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Oh man that's funny. A complete airhead judging one of the great minds of our time. Your not smart enough to mow Hawking's lawn.
If your brain was a body, it would look like his.
 
Quote from jem:

Finally this is the troll comedy..

stu... claims that when I wrote...

"evolving universes signify the values"

_it is somehow different from -

when he wrote

"evolving universes signify the values"

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if evolving universes signify their values --- any way, one still has to explain why those values are so fine tuned for life... if you do not have a theory of everything.

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Oh dear.
3rd time of trying. Seriously? You can’t surely expect to be taken seriously if you're always going to be that ridiculous. Although of course religion does rely an awful lot on the utterly ridiculous.

Try it this way then.
Evolving universes signify............the values of cosmological constants.......would be inevitable. That does not say ".... evolving universes signify their values".
In that event, evolution, evolving universes, would be the natural process by which values eventually arrive at the values they do. An inevitability.

You are too brain locked with the predisposition for a creator god. Always driving everything towards a pre-conclusion. It is the antithesis of science.
 
Quote from jem:

In fact stu, you are such an utter moron troll... you did not even read the intro to the paper on the first page of the link.

What do you think the string landscape is... you tool / twit/ liar.

"alternate histories"

On top of that you imbecille read the title of the paper...

Populating the Landscape: A Top Down Approach
S.W. Hawking
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and Thomas Hertog
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http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0602/0602091v2.pdf

"We put forward a framework for cosmology that combines the string landscape with no boundary initial conditions. In this framework, amplitudes for
alternative histories for the universe are calculated with &#64257;nal boundary conditions only. This leads to a top down approach to cosmology, in which the histories of the universe depend on the precise question asked"...

and finally the paper comes from the cornell university library...

http://arxiv.org/
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You're always so angry and abusive. Sign of a lost argument and poor personality.
I think people like you and the likes of Lucrum must suffer from a form of inverted intellectualism, where you think it's clever or somehow superior to be ignorant.

You can't even read a simple sentence without getting it wrong , so there's no way you're going to be able to use any of Stephen Hawking's stuff properly, as evidenced in this thread and many others.

futurecurrents's marble analogy is a good one, and you should try to understand it, especially in context to the word 'multiverse', instead of blathering around stuff you clearly have no clue about.

Go get some counseling on those anger and abuse issues too.
 
Quote from stu:

You're always so angry and abusive. Sign of a lost argument and poor personality.
I think people like you and the likes of Lucrum must suffer from a form of inverted intellectualism, where you think it's clever or somehow superior to be ignorant.

You can't even read a simple sentence without getting it wrong , so there's no way you're going to be able to use any of Stephen Hawking's stuff properly, as evidenced in this thread and many others.

futurecurrents's marble analogy is a good one, and you should try to understand it, especially in context to the word 'multiverse', instead of blathering around stuff you clearly have no clue about.

Go get some counseling on those anger and abuse issues too.
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oh man you just ran off the road, using future currents as some sort of reference:D
 
Quote from stu:

You're always so angry and abusive. Sign of a lost argument and poor personality.
I think people like you and the likes of Lucrum must suffer from a form of inverted intellectualism, where you think it's clever or somehow superior to be ignorant.


Go get some counseling on those anger and abuse issues too.
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Think, Simpsons, or Family Guy. They have been trained that dumb is good.

But in their heart of hearts, they no this is a failed philosophy, but it is too late to do anything about it, hence, the anger. I would be pissed too if I saw the man behind curtain too late to do anything about it.
:D
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

Things are not so fine-tuned for life on Mercury. There is no life within a black hole. No birds fly at the edge the galaxy. Given a multitude of conditions, at least one will prove suitable. If the conditions weren't conducive to life anywhere, there would be no-one to think how bad the conditions are.

Everything works together perfectly because it (the universe) was all one and the same at one time. A shattered marble of many different shaped bits can be reassembled into one no matter how many times the bits are broken. Are the bits fine-tuned ? No, they are just all from the same thing thus they fit together.
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another example of an et atheist mind.

I post quotes from top scientists speaking of tuning of the cosmological constant to dozens of decimal places and we get responses like mercury is hot.
 
Stu - if you were not abusive first.. I would not be abusive towards you.

Although this is abusive to your argument.



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Quote from RCG Trader:

Think, Simpsons, or Family Guy. They have been trained that dumb is good.
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Never watched either, not one episode. Not sure what to think about adults who watch cartoons.
 
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