The weekly: Greece to default/restructure THIS weekend? thread

We are reaching the point where there has to be admission that the money is lost and is not going to be repaid under any plan. The issue has shifted to who is going to take the hit and how the hit (writedown) is going to be structured to control collateral damage.

The candidates are the Banks, the EU taxpayers with a concentration in the larger weathier Northern EU members (France, Ger), the IMF with participation from wealthy BRICs. Or stated differently, do we stick the loss with the banks that loaned the money because we asked them to, do we absorb the loss to the taxpayers, including those that have little to do with Greece, or can we get the whole world to share the hit.

The news in the past few weeks has been about trial baloons for each of these general strategies.

The meeting starting this week will be about how to take the hit within in EU because the banks can't afford the hit and the ROW will not join in. Ger banks sold a lot of their Greek debt months ago and are better positioned to take the hit with some Gov. support. So, Ger does not want to bail out everyone elses banks. This meeting is going to be about trying to get Germany to subsidize the whole EU banking system far outside its national liability. They will of course try to disguise this in complex garbage of details but if you look through its all about who takes the it.
 
Sarkozy says euro zone talks stuck, flies to Germany
PARIS/FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Plans to tackle the euro zone debt crisis have stalled with Paris and Berlin at odds over how to increase the firepower of the region's bailout fund, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Wednesday.

Sarkozy told French parliamentarians the dispute was holding up negotiations. He then flew to Frankfurt to talk with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in an attempt to break the deadlock ahead of a make-or-break European leaders' summit on Sunday.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sarko...2.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=6&asset=&ccode=
 
Quote from tradingjournals:

I said that about France here on ET a long time ago!

The only real asset France has is the UN veto which allows it to extract the wealth from poor countries such as the african countries.

African countries should actually sue France for reparations from the colonial times. They stole the wealth of Africa.

Sue them before which court?

:p

Also the French have plenty of assets. Great infrastructure, many global economic powerhouses, a wealthy population...

Did you know the French are the largest non central bank gold owners except the people of India?

But yeah, they have nothing...Just last month 3000 French were caught in a little rowing boat trying to illegaly enter China.
 
The frog blinks.

Sarkozy yields on ECB crisis role, pressure on Italy
French President Nicolas Sarkozy backed down in the face of implacable German opposition to his desire to use unlimited European Central Bank funds to fight the crisis. Instead, the euro zone may turn to emerging economies such as China and Brazil for help in underpinning its sickly bond market.

"Further work is still needed and that is why we will take the decisions in the follow-up euro zone summit," European Council President Herman Van Rompuy said after chairing 12 hours of talks.

He indicated that Italy, the euro zone state now in the markets' firing line, had been told to come up with a more convincing plan this week to implement structural economic reforms to raise its growth potential.

http://beta.finance.yahoo.com/news/sarkozy-yields-ecb-crisis-role-103657067.html
 
Quote from antelope:

It's really cowardly and indeed very French to point fingers against Italy now. As soon as they loose AAA rating (which has not been done yet only thanks to huge policial pressure on rating agencies), someone else will point fingers at France for escalating debt crisis.

The French are masters in behind the scenes diplomacy and they always get what they want.

The ECB will bow to French pressure you can take that to the bank.
 
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