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[Nine_Ender]

You take comments too seriously.

While Vietnam was a mistake, it was because the US was fighting a Cold War against the soviets.
The first Iraq war was completely justified. Second clearly a mistake.
Historians believe that millions of lives and hundreds of thousands of American lives were saved by the atomic bombs. The Japanese weren't going to surrender without a fight until they could see the real risk that their homeland was going to be completely destroyed.

And you are ignoring the air strikes on Yugoslavia and the Korean War.

When you are the world leader (and not just part of the entourage), you will have to make bold decisions and sometimes they will be wrong. Unfortunately our current administration doesn't take the "world leader" thing seriously.

The US has a history of escalating military conflicts. It is again occurring today. I believe there is a false sense of security of many Americans because they feel removed from the battle. The American reaction to 9/11 suggests this. During the Cold War, the US and USSR could have destroyed each other entirely ( if not much worse ). At some point, Americans have to understand that the only true protection is diplomacy, good intentions, and seeking peace. Military can be used to protect your borders and as a last resort to prevent immoral acts to humanity like genocide. If a country like USSR or the US itself somehow goes rogue and decides to annex other nations, then many nations can band together and suppress the aggressor if needed. Again, a last resort.

After WW2, many nations said "never again". Some Americans never got the message.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Canada was an active member of the Allied forces in WW2 long before the US even entered the war. Your ignorance knows no ends in seems, just some dumb fuck American on the internet.

Ignorance really?

The same month Canada entered the war, my grandmothers two brothers went north to Canada to train Canadian pilots, eventually joining up with the Americans down the road after Pearl Harbor. One of them married a Canadian woman. I might know a bit more about that chapter than you do.

However, you are walking sideways like a crab away from the point I made. No one doubts that the Americans eventually arrived in Europe and did more than their share. But we were talking about Japan and why the bomb was dropped and I was asking how many Canadian were lost helping the Americans take the south sea island and helping the Americans. We lost 14,000 on Okinawa along and the projections were that if we had to take the Japanese homeland by direct assault that it would cost over a million lives. So I asked - since you judged the americans for dropping the bomb- how many Canadians would have been part of that assault given the fact that you had done nothing on any of the other islands to help us out even though were fighting in both Europe and the Japs as well.

No need to answer. History has given us the answer. How about when the Americans had to fight the Japs in the Aleutians who were headed to the U.S mainland? How many Canadians fought there even though they were on a trajectory to reach Canadian as well as mainland American soil if not stopped. You do know about the fighting in the Aleutians right? Or did you only learn about the few places where Canadians fought and the hell with everyone else even though Canadians benefited. You think that if we had not stopped the Japanese that when the occupied the American homeland they would have said "oh we will leave those Canadians alone because they are tougher than the Americans and they have good maple syrup?" Dream on. Typical Canadian cloistered view of history.

So as I said it is easy for you to get uppity and judge the Americans on what they needed to do to stop the Japanese because it was no skin of the Canadian's noses either way. Canadians were worthless as tits on a nun in helping in the Pacific.

 

[Nine_Ender]

He's probably hinting to Canada bailing in the Pacific theater. I don't know enough or care enough to google if true or not, just remember the Aussies and Kiwis lending a hand.

So much of his posts scream pure troll that I'm probably wasting my time even bothering.
He objected to me saying if Americans wanted to give away California we'd take it. There are numerous Americans on here pushing this absurd concept that the US would be better off without California ( yet they want to keep states like Mississippi, Arkansas, etc etc ). California is one of the few US states embracing businesses that will thrive in the new economies on this planet. Without it, your economy would take a huge hit.

It reminds me of Brexit where numerous posters who have no stake in the game claimed the vote was a great victory. And now the residents of the UK have to deal with the fallout of that vote they neither thought out well or understood.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Ignorance really?

Yes, if you are anything more then a pure troll you are ignorant. I'm done with you.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Yes, if you are anything more then a pure troll you are extremely ignorant. I'm done with you.

No doubt. I brought facts into the discussion that were not convenient for you. Sorry about that.

 

[Cuddles]

So much of his posts scream pure troll that I'm probably wasting my time even bothering.
He objected to me saying if Americans wanted to give away California we'd take it. There are numerous Americans on here pushing this absurd concept that the US would be better off without California ( yet they want to keep states like Mississippi, Arkansas, etc etc ). California is one of the few US states embracing businesses that will thrive in the new economies on this planet. Without it, your economy would take a huge hit.

It reminds me of Brexit where numerous posters who have no stake in the game claimed the vote was a great victory. And now the residents of the UK have to deal with the fallout of that vote they neither thought out well or understood.

You need to go to bed, you're not making much sense.

 

[newwurldmn]

The US has a history of escalating military conflicts. It is again occurring today. I believe there is a false sense of security of many Americans because they feel removed from the battle. The American reaction to 9/11 suggests this. During the Cold War, the US and USSR could have destroyed each other entirely ( if not much worse ). At some point, Americans have to understand that the only true protection is diplomacy, good intentions, and seeking peace. Military can be used to protect your borders and as a last resort to prevent immoral acts to humanity like genocide. If a country like USSR or the US itself somehow goes rogue and decides to annex other nations, then many nations can band together and suppress the aggressor if needed. Again, a last resort.

After WW2, many nations said "never again". Some Americans never got the message.

Canadians have the luxury of saying these things. It's easy to when you are sitting in the back seat seat of world diplomacy.
Even when oil prices were high and the candian sands were producing tons of oil, Canada was a bit player on the global economic stage

 

[gwb-trading]

I find it amusing that it has been noted regularly that Toronto is the most militaristic city on the face of the earth in terms of the number of monuments and plaques celebrating the Canadian contributions to WW1, WW2, and the War of 1812. In fact it is nearly impossible to turn around in Toronto without running into some celebration of Canadian warriors. Even a simple 3 block walk down Wellington St. from York St. to Yonge St. will have you pass over two dozen monuments -- some in buildings like the plaques in Commerce Court North celebrating WW1.