The victims of newtown are being played like a fiddle.

[Lucrum]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Id have respect for them if they spoke up about things that actually could have prevented the shooting.

Few including most of our "leaders" have no idea what to do to. They're terribly ignorant and or misinformed on the topic. And worse the anti-gun buffoons don't care, they just want to eliminate private ownership of guns one step at a time PERIOD



Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

- William Pitt the Younger

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Or furthermore, why did Obama wait for this event before doing this? Why didn't he bring up one of the thousands of parents that lost children, or vice versa, in cities like Chicago or DC way before this?

Sometimes it takes a tragic and shocking events to spur us to action (example an IRS audit spurred me to keep better books). It isn't just Obama it's all of us. The gun background check wouldn't of done anything to stop Newtown from happening but it is a common sense and logical thing to do. I live in gun country in west Texas and none of my anti-Obama gun fanatic buddies are against background checks for buying guns.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

Public perception. It matters quite a bit in a democracy.

Perhaps, but by doing it this way, the bullshit meter goes through the roof.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from bigarrow:

Sometimes it takes a tragic and shocking events to spur us to action (example an IRS audit spurred me to keep better books). It isn't just Obama it's all of us. The gun background check wouldn't of done anything to stop Newtown from happening but it is a common sense and logical thing to do. I live in gun country in west Texas and none of my anti-Obama gun fanatic buddies are against background checks for buying guns.

It's not about background checks. It's about losing credibility when publicity stunts make people feel cheesy about it. If you (or anyone else) feels so strongly about the item, make the debate. Win the American people over to your side, then have them call their congressional reps.

Stop with the drama.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

It's not about background checks. It's about losing credibility when publicity stunts make people feel cheesy about it. If you (or anyone else) feels so strongly about the item, make the debate. Win the American people over to your side, then have them call their congressional reps.

Stop with the drama.

Lmao, win the American people over to background checks!? Love it.

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

It's not about background checks. It's about losing credibility when publicity stunts make people feel cheesy about it. If you (or anyone else) feels so strongly about the item, make the debate. Win the American people over to your side, then have them call their congressional reps.

Stop with the drama.

No drama, the American people are already for background checks, the drama belongs to the other side on this issue.

 

[Max E.]

Quote from bigarrow:

the drama belongs to the other side on this issue.

What a load of shit, do you see people on the right shamelesslely trotting out victims one after another tryign to guilt their opposition into taking their side, even though it makes no sense, and the legislation proposed wouldnt do a damn thing to stop their tragedy?

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bigarrow:

...The gun background check wouldn't of done anything to stop Newtown from happening but it is a common sense and logical thing to do....

The gun background check would NOT have done ANYTHING to stop Newtown OR the Gabby Gifford shooting BUT it is a common sense and logical thing to do.

The gun background check would NOT have accomplished a GD thing, nothing zero zippo nada to stop Newtown OR the Gabby Gifford shooting BUT somehow it is a "common sense and logical thing to do."


1) News flash, back ground checks are already required when purchasing from an FFL
2) so called "universal" background checks would require the registration of the 200 - 300 million firearms already in circulation and it also assumes no guns would cross our boarders illegally, like drugs and Mexicans do everyday. Otherwise it's completely unenforceable. Hence utterly useless.
3)The vast VAST majority of guns used in crimes were not are not and NEVER will be subject to background checks PERIOD. They're STOLEN.

4) Lets say you numb skulls get want you want. Afterwards when the mentally ill are still getting guns and the shootings are still happening. What's your next "common sense and logical thing to do" going to be?


Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

- William Pitt the Younger

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

What a load of shit...

Ditto

 

[Mercor]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Or furthermore, why did Obama wait for this event before doing this? Why didn't he bring up one of the thousands of parents that lost children, or vice versa, in cities like Chicago or DC way before this?

Because most of those victims were Black and Obama doesn't care about Black people.
Once White people get killed it becomes a problem for the racist Democrats.