the unsettling truth about this market

[parker]

they both try to neutralize eachother's efforts in the ME

Not completely true, see the efforts by both in Afghanistan.


Other than that, I agree with what your saying completely. But, the fact of the matter is things are getting serious in Iran rather quickly. I don't think its unreasonable to at least mentally prepare for that situation.

Do I think its a slam dunk? no. The way I look at it, Iran's government is at a line of support. I'm on the sidelines about this until it breaks one way or another.

However, there are ways to profit from the frenzied reporting from Iran, especially as countries like the United States, France, and Germany, and Russia start officially addressing the issue

 

[426653478]

oh and let's not forget russia and china are brains behind the iranian government, even if the regime is unable to pull itself together on its own, they're not gonna let their proxy fall into pieces and into US hands just like that, i'm sure they'll even go to the extent of hiring militia from afganistan, pakistan and such just to have them come to iran and murder some of the protesters

and I'm not sides with the iranian people, I don't even feel sorry for them, even though the iranian government is an asshole, I'm pretty sure the people are no better, just like how the american people being raped by the banks actually deserve it

 

[parker]

I think that may be partially true, but I'm not convinced on China. China is willing to play ball with Iran up to a point. They like the idea of a powerful stable government with a large sphere of influence in the middle of east that likes to butt heads with the US.

However I don't think they like the idea of Iran being in complete disarray, especially if it is armed with nuclear weapons. I think China is willing to cut and run with tis support for any given regime pretty quickly if it is seen as a beneficial move.


Oh and China doesn't want us getting in to another conflict, they want us to pay them back for the one in Iraq first.

 

[JSSPMK]

Quote from Ivanovich:

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. You'll probably be the one left holding the bag, though.

No stop - hold bag, use stop - pass the bag

 

[PlusMinus]

Quote from piezoe:

As a humanist, I hope you're wrong. As a pragmatist and investor, I hope you're right.

Right, those manipulative Jooos, we all know what you mean. What a crock of shit.

 

[PlusMinus]

Quote from 426653478:

I'll bet you it won't, america can dream on

I wonder if there is an online website we can bet on through, or is that illegal?!, I'm willing to bet up to $5000

oh that reminds me there is intrade, let me check it out ... oh just found this;

"Will Ayatollah Ali Khamenei depart as Supreme Leader of Iran?
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to depart as Supreme Leader of Iran before midnight ET 31 Dec 2009"

haha, ya right, no where in hell will that happen

Of course there is an online website where you can "bet" on that. I believe it is legal if you give the proceeds to charity.

http://www.intrade.com/

 

[piezoe]

Quote from PlusMinus:

Right, those manipulative Jooos, we all know what you mean. What a crock of shit.

Actually, that's a thought that had not entered my mind until your post.

 

[krazykarl]

Quote from Clubber Lang:

2003 was sort of similar.

Almost everyday the futures would gap up big overnight and the market would just drift around during the day.

The difference is that in 2003 things were actually getting better and computer programs weren't completely manipulating stocks the way they do now.

Algos have been running since the 80s doing the same things they do today.

 

[Hombre]

Quote from tortoise:

well, yes, but when will that happen? Next week. Next month? Years from now?

End of january will be the first drop, second will comke right before the Easter.

 

[Clubber Lang]

Quote from krazykarl:

Algos have been running since the 80s doing the same things they do today.

LOL. Yeah o.k.

If you haven't noticed a difference between algo's from even 2008 to 2009, then you must be a long term position trader.

Algo's ARE THE MARKET now, and they're frontrunning every order you send.