The Trump Files

[Spike Trader]

Such thinking undermines an orderly society. If something is illegal and you don't like it get the law changed...don't disobey it.

I hate the guy who lives next door to me and I would like to shoot him and I think the neighborhood would benefit from his demise...but it's against the law. I could run outside and yell "I'm doing the neighborhood a service...I'll take the consequences" and blow him away. While this might be justified in my mind, I don't do it and obey the law in order to preserve an orderly society.

I think that revealing his activities might give those who were stiffed a chance of suing him in the hope of recovering at least some of their losses.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Such thinking undermines an orderly society. If something is illegal and you don't like it get the law changed...don't disobey it.

I hate the guy who lives next door to me and I would like to shoot him and I think the neighborhood would benefit from his demise...but it's against the law. I could run outside and yell "I'm doing the neighborhood a service...I'll take the consequences" and blow him away. While this might be justified in my mind, I don't do it and obey the law in order to preserve an orderly society. The Times should do likewise.

Thanks for that refreshing bit of false equivalency.

As an aside, even Bob Woodward, who doesn't appear to be a big Clinton fan, would have accepted the legal consequences of the disclosure if the opportunity presented itself.

 

[oldnemesis]

Optics is the branch of physics which involves the behavior and properties of light, including its interactions with matter and the construction of instruments that use or detect it. Optics usually describes the behavior of visible, ultraviolet, and infrared light.
Wikipedia

Optics is not the word you're looking for.

 

[oldnemesis]

Thanks for that refreshing bit of false equivalency

Equivalence was not implied...it is an example...exaggerated for impact.

 

[oldnemesis]

As an aside, even Bob Woodward, who doesn't appear to be a big Clinton fan, would have accepted the legal consequences of the disclosure if the opportunity presented itself.

How could you possibly know WHAT Bob Woodward would or would not do??

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Optics is the branch of physics which involves the behavior and properties of light, including its interactions with matter and the construction of instruments that use or detect it. Optics usually describes the behavior of visible, ultraviolet, and infrared light.
Wikipedia

Optics is not the word you're looking for.

Door Number 2:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/optics?s=t

 

[oldnemesis]

Door Number 2:

Conceded...A new piece of information to me. Unusual usage.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

How could you possibly know WHAT Bob Woodward would or would not do??

From my earlier link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-trouble-to-publish-donald-trumps-tax-return/

Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward, who joined Baquet on the Harvard panel and also said he would risk jail to publish Trump's tax returns

 

[Covertibility]

False: most Americans do not know where Trump money comes from.
They only know how the money was used, how it was introduced in the financial system, not from it originated. For instance, when one of Trump casino was going bankrupt, his dad pour around 3million at the time - toay's value would be at least 15million- in a type of illegal loan, by buying betting chips and not using these. If not for the judicial system, people could have believed this money was from customers, and in fact it came from his dad; and it could have came from any type of person with more shaddy backgrounds.
Trump is right to fully resist releasing his tax returns : here they are highlighting mega losses, but, from McMullin statements, his tax returns would reveal stuff Americans are unsuspecting of.

The Clintons: Politicians are not stupid, they are politicians and were well aware to tidy up all their finances. That's why they released their taxes, and have released them over the last 15 years. They are well prepared. Business people who go into politics would do well to study well this election: Trump is just one example as many before him of business people who are "discovering" that politicians prepare decades before for elections. They don't leave anything to chance.

Do you think they made their millions from speaking fees? Do you think organizations pay them $250k just to hear them speak?

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Do you think they made their millions from speaking fees? Do you think organizations pay them $250k just to hear them speak?

So you're implying that Trump tells the truth about his income while the Clintons lie about theirs? Really?

New York Times bestselling authors can command speaking fees upwards of $40k. You think maybe people who held world leadership roles might get a bit more?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorgan/2013/11/14/how-much-can-you-charge-for-speaking/#5759f0806c31

 

[oldnemesis]

Do you think they made their millions from speaking fees? Do you think organizations pay them $250k just to hear them speak?

I don't know the details of any supposed Clinton misbehavior but whatever their misbehavior may or may not be it does not excuse illegal activity on anyone else's part. If the Clintons have acted illegally...prosecute them. It has nothing to do with the Times publishing illegally obtained information.