The Taxes Are Coming, The Taxes Are Coming

Quote from achilles28:

Bit of correction. The Government doesn't create jobs. They confiscate wealth that if otherwise left in the private sector, would create more jobs when spent. For every dollar collected in taxes, 30 cents is destroyed through bureaucratic inefficiency and waste. So Government, beyond a certain theoretical size, actually destroys jobs. America, and most G20 countries, are well beyond that point. The more Government regulates and nationalizes industry, the more jobs are destroyed (or costs go up). Healthcare is a good example. Cap-and-Trade would devastate the Energy sector and the broader economy. In Spain, for every Green energy job created, two were destroyed in traditional oil and gas. Spains green initiative is the exact blueprint Obama wants to pass in America. To chalk that up to nothing more than ignorant bravado, nope. These guys know what they're doing.

you can have some temporary relief here brother-
Senate Democrats abandon comprehensive energy bill

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100723/ap_on_bi_ge/us_senate_energy


exactly..now the real question is how the government employees(aka public servants) today earning more than private employees(the people who feed them)?
this is the one fucked up "economy" we got here..
 
Quote from Bob111:

you can have some temporary relief here brother-


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100723/ap_on_bi_ge/us_senate_energy


exactly..now the real question is how the government employees(aka public servants) today earning more than private employees(the people who feed them)?
this is the one fucked up "economy" we got here..

THANK GOD.

Temporary is right. Usually they rewrite and get it passed under some obscure legislation. They never, ever give up.

I remember that stat. Public employees make 60% more than private sector workers, at the same job? Disgusting. And these traitors subsidize corporations to offshore American jobs. We're literally paying these fuckers to live in luxury while they destroy our economy. Then, they make us pay Corps to push the knife into us deeper. Oh yea. Well, at least we beat these scumbags, for now! Thanks for that :)
 
Quote from BSAM:

Take those blinders off man. I don't want government doing anything except what is necessary. I'm kinda like a Libertarian/Independentt/Real Republican.

Your belief is that leveling the playing field means government takeover/control. Consider the difference between the phrases "level playing field" and "leveling the playing field". I've already told you that there isn't a "level playing field" because of the rich people controlling everything via control/influence over local, state, and federal governments/agencies.

If there was a "level playing field", the poor man wouldn't need the rich man.

Perhaps your apparent youth has poisened your mindset to the point that you believe only a rich person or the government is the only way to create jobs. Nothing could be further from the truth. Ironically though, today that is just about correct. However, millions of poor people have become comfortably wealthy in this country because in times past, business was much easier to start up and maintain than today. Why? Because of your phrase: Government meddling.

Do you not understand that people don't need government to tell them how to take every breath in life???

Yes, let's "level the playing field" by giving Americans back their freedom. Freedom to to run their lives, freedom to create and operate businesses, freedom to understand and pay their reasonable share of taxes, freedom to expand for the benefit of their families and employees; not for the benefit of the government. Ooooh weee....Yeah let's "level the playing field"!!!

Take a walk across this country and see how many poor people have created jobs. But, today it is getting more and more difficult. I seriously doubt that Sam Walton, Ray Kroc, Dave Thomas, Ross Perot, Bill Gates, and many other "poor people" could reproduce what they did and what they brought to this country when they began many years ago.

But, those are just a few names you've heard of (maybe) because of their huge success and fame. There's people scattered all over the country who started with almost nothing and made themselves and many others happy and comfortable. Today, it's becoming much, much more difficult.

Let's level the playing field so that more poor people can get ahead.


"Poor people do not create jobs and never will"??? I got to go so I can go laugh my ass off.

Poor people have an idea. Rich people fund the idea. Poor people would be nowhere without the capital of the rich. I am not sure why you are championing for the poor - maybe you are poor. But be realistic. Rich people run the economy, run the world, and always will.

Your notion of a level playing field is a fantasy. It will never happen. When you wake up from your dream, you will realize this.
 
Quote from achilles28:

Bit of correction. The Government doesn't create jobs. They confiscate wealth that if otherwise left in the private sector, would create more jobs when spent. For every dollar collected in taxes, 30 cents is destroyed through bureaucratic inefficiency and waste. So Government, beyond a certain theoretical size, actually destroys jobs.

I agree with this point. Which I am against raising taxes on the rich, as some in this thread have proposed. I would much rather see that money in the hands of the rich than the government.
 
Quote from Kassz007:

Poor people have an idea. Rich people fund the idea. Poor people would be nowhere without the capital of the rich. I am not sure why you are championing for the poor - maybe you are poor. But be realistic. Rich people run the economy, run the world, and always will.

Your notion of a level playing field is a fantasy. It will never happen. When you wake up from your dream, you will realize this.

LOL

You're a funny boy. You got lots to learn. Have a good one bud.
 
Quote from Kassz007:

USD as reserve currency. Until this is no longer the case, there can be no currency crisis.

This needs more love.

When the world no longer transacts in dollars, we are in for a real shit storm. Like it or not, USD is the current lifeblood of the world right now. We print traincars full of dollars and the world thinks "w00t! Now there's more dollars that I can get!"

When the dollar becomes Just Another Currency, it's going to be "thanks, but what can that buy me in Beijing?"
 
Quote from Kassz007:

I agree with this point. Which I am against raising taxes on the rich, as some in this thread have proposed. I would much rather see that money in the hands of the rich than the government.

top tax bracket will rise for about 17%..while bottom tax bracket goes up +50%..combine that bottom bracket rise with multiple cuts on various credits and you will see that the taxes for poor(majority of the population) are going up close to 100%.
i really want to see how those voters going to like this shit from brother obama..those,who vote for hope...and change....here is fucking change for you..it's on your pay stub
 
Over the last 80 years the Dems have created a social underclass and entitlement mentality in order to garner party loyalty, votes to maintain PARTY POWER. This welfare state now has gotten to the point where last year 47% of all eligible citizens paid no income taxes. You cannot have half the poplulation paying nothing and the other half, with the top 5%, paying 95% of all taxes. That fiscal folly is simply unsustainable. 2011 will be the year we begin to pay for our past mistakes!




Quote from pspr:

The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

Fiscal Policy: Many voters are looking forward to 2011, hoping a new Congress will put the country back on the right track. But unless something's done soon, the new year will also come with a raft of tax hikes — including a return of the death tax — that will be real killers.

Through the end of this year, the federal estate tax rate is zero — thanks to the package of broad-based tax cuts that President Bush pushed through to get the economy going earlier in the decade.

But as of midnight Dec. 31, the death tax returns — at a rate of 55% on estates of $1 million or more. The effect this will have on hospital life-support systems is already a matter of conjecture.

Resurrection of the death tax, however, isn't the only tax problem that will be ushered in Jan. 1. Many other cuts from the Bush administration are set to disappear and a new set of taxes will materialize. And it's not just the rich who will pay.

The lowest bracket for the personal income tax, for instance, moves up 50% — to 15% from 10%. The next lowest bracket — 25% — will rise to 28%, and the old 28% bracket will be 31%. At the higher end, the 33% bracket is pushed to 36% and the 35% bracket becomes 39.6%.

But the damage doesn't stop there.

The marriage penalty also makes a comeback, and the capital gains tax will jump 33% — to 20% from 15%. The tax on dividends will go all the way from 15% to 39.6% — a 164% increase.

Both the cap-gains and dividend taxes will go up further in 2013 as the health care reform adds a 3.8% Medicare levy for individuals making more than $200,000 a year and joint filers making more than $250,000. Other tax hikes include: halving the child tax credit to $500 from $1,000 and fixing the standard deduction for couples at the same level as it is for single filers.

Letting the Bush cuts expire will cost taxpayers $115 billion next year alone, according to the Congressional Budget Office, and $2.6 trillion through 2020.

But even more tax headaches lie ahead. This "second wave" of hikes, as Americans for Tax Reform puts it, are designed to pay for ObamaCare and include:

The Medicine Cabinet Tax. Americans, says ATR, "will no longer be able to use health savings account, flexible spending account, or health reimbursement pretax dollars to purchase nonprescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin)."

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