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Luck is a wonderful thing, but you can't depend on it. And so...


traders without edge are gamblers with money management traders without money management are gamblers, not traders. edge is exploiting an inefficiency in the marketplace or acting on information such as order flow, rumor from trusted sources, et al.


the version of the law of large numbers applied wherein multiple positions are taken then weeded out of the non performers--- how the real trend followers make money when they don't have real edge--- this tactic has a smaller element of luck but it still applies or should i say LUCK is easier to access when this concept is applied??

Yes, you can depend on luck, if your willing to expose yourself to enough randomness to allow it to happen.

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GDP Surprises, Markets Mixed, Ackerman Warns Banks



Fantastic economic news that the Gross Domestic Product sunk less than expected pushed many companies slightly higher on the day. However, Deutsche Bank CEO, Josef Ackerman, issued a dire warning that waves of defaults may hit the banking sector very soon counteracted the positive GDP news causing stocks to close mixed on this last trading day of the week. The DJIA managed to hang onto positive territory closing up 17.15 to 9171.61 after a very choppy session. The Nasdaq slipped back 5.80 to 1978.50 and the broad based S&P 500 eased higher by .72 to 987.47.


Beckman Coulter BEC: The lab gear maker climbed 11.17% or $6.33 to $62.99/share after being upgraded to outperform by Robert Baird & Co.

Dun&Bradstreet DNB: Dropped hard 13.03% or $10.79 to $71.99/share after the business credit agency slashed its forecasts for 2009

Washington Post WPO: Surged to be the largest gainer in the S&P 500 climbing 7.73% or $32.40 to $451.50/share after posting a second quarter profit

Office Max OMX: Citigroup upgraded shares to buy triggering the stock to add 12.99% or $1.07 to $9.31


Gold regained its luster adding $18.70 to $956.00, oil climbed $2.22 to $69.16 and the VIX fear index added 2.05% to 25.92
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

traders without edge are gamblers with money management traders without money management are gamblers, not traders. edge is exploiting an inefficiency in the marketplace or acting on information such as order flow, rumor from trusted sources, et al.


the version of the law of large numbers applied wherein multiple positions are taken then weeded out of the non performers--- how the real trend followers make money when they don't have real edge--- this tactic has a smaller element of luck but it still applies or should i say LUCK is easier to access when this concept is applied??

Yes, you can depend on luck, if your willing to expose yourself to enough randomness to allow it to happen.

surf


This is hysterical Surf. When you lose money it's all bad luck huh?

Admit it...you have zero trading skills and know nothing about trading.


You get more ridiculous as time goes by.
 
Quote from EPrado:

This is hysterical Surf. When you lose money it's all bad luck huh?

Admit it...you have zero trading skills and know nothing about trading.


You get more ridiculous as time goes by.


no, your misunderstanding. I will be happy to challenge you to any kind of market knowledge test-- i am not a great trader, but I know what i am talking about and am a good analyst most of the time. when i lost alot of money recently, its due to lax money management, not bad luck. however, when I have made lots, its due to good luck that was able to happen via strong money management application. make sense?

surf
 
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do you work or have you worked on the institutional/fund side in pburgh? thanks, surf

No, but I think I know where Doug Allen lives! :)
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

no, your misunderstanding. I will be happy to challenge you to any kind of market knowledge test-- i am not a great trader, but I know what i am talking about and am a good analyst most of the time. when i lost alot of money recently, its due to lax money management, not bad luck. however, when I have made lots, its due to good luck that was able to happen via strong money management application. make sense?

surf

Well...then I suggest you post on EliteAnalyst.com.
 
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No, but I think I know where Doug Allen lives! :)


funny, post pictures. I wonder what ever happened to that guy, i tried to meet up with him last time i was visiting home in pburgh without much success.

surf
 
That dude was a mistery! He and his buddy in NJ operate out of UPS stores (one HF's address was the buddy's home address), but the other hedgefund did answer the phone in Texas. So who knows what was going on...
 
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