The Subconscious mind...

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Quote from electron:

You may want to check out the Sedona Method. That's what a friend of mine did some two years ago. Funny, ever since he made no post on this board. He now finds it very negative and simply avoids it. He was a successful trader before he started using the Method, but became even more afterwards. I was playing with this stuff recently on vacation and must say that I find it pretty powerful.

Just my 2 cents...

what makes this better and actually work, let's say vs a "Tony Robbins"??

I would love to try it out, but these all seem like the only person benefiting is the one marketing the tapes like in all these infomercials.
 
Quote from EqtTrdr:

what makes this better and actually work, let's say vs a "Tony Robbins"??

I would love to try it out, but these all seem like the only person benefiting is the one marketing the tapes like in all these infomercials.

Tony Robbins's stuff is different and I don't think it even addresses you demons. It is more about motivation and affirmations. The Sedona Method is deeper. You can always return the tapes for a refund within 30 days if I am not mistaken and there are books for this too. The main book, 'The Sedona Method' is kinda tough to read, I had to struggle a lot with it, but you can make progress eventually.

Well, anyway your mileage will vary and it is not a good idea to compare your progress to anyone else's and to expect enlightement in 3 months, although the guy who invented the method apparently went free in 3 months only.

My friend says that he does have glimpses of enlightement now and then, so it must really work. But it takes time to get really good with this. Of course, that applies to almost anything else.
 
Quote from electron:

Tony Robbins's stuff is different and I don't think it even addresses you demons. It is more about motivation and affirmations. The Sedona Method is deeper. You can always return the tapes for a refund within 30 days if I am not mistaken and there are books for this too. The main book, 'The Sedona Method' is kinda tough to read, I had to struggle a lot with it, but you can make progress eventually.

Well, anyway your mileage will vary and it is not a good idea to compare your progress to anyone else's and to expect enlightement in 3 months, although the guy who invented the method apparently went free in 3 months only.

My friend says that he does have glimpses of enlightement now and then, so it must really work. But it takes time to get really good with this. Of course, that applies to almost anything else.

thanks
 
Some of my most obvious gains so far with this method:
1. greater calmness
2. greater confidence
3. I feel more relaxed and can relax much more easily
4. I have a better understanding and recognition of my feelings
5. I procrastinate less
6. I am less of a perfectionist (not that it was a major problem for me)
7. I am more adventerous

These are all good qualities for a trader.

My friend also says that it made him more generous. Well, I have known him for about 2 and half year only and can confirm that he indeed has been very generous to me, but I also met a good buddy of his who has known my friend for almost 25 years and he claims that my friend has always been very generous, so I decided to have no opinion about it.
 
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I think you are very correct. I am too comfortable in my current situation because I know I can make some ok money. The problem is, I feel like I am short-changing myself because I see way more than I take advantage of. Its funny because I truly believe that if I were to let myself out of this zone I would be able to break out. Dont really know what is holding me back. I am sure it will come but I am getting a little impatient. I've been stuck here for 6 months now. Thank for the advice though jaronimo.

Steve,

You had mentioned that you are being mentored or at least trade in an office with a number of highly successful traders. Is this advantage any help at all to your current problem of being unable to break out psychologically?
Anyway,good luck and hope you find the solution soon.
 
Well, to a certain extent it helps because I have traders I can talk to about issues and whatnot, but in reality, when i am trading, i am trading alone and therefore I am the only one who can take my game to another level. I guess its nice to have guys to chat with but I am realizing more and more that only I can make the necessary changes.
I am really searching for a way to conquer this mental block, I have never encountered anything so tough to this point in my life. I guess when you want something so badly, you'll either evetually get it or go crazy trying :D

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Steve,

You had mentioned that you are being mentored or at least trade in an office with a number of highly successful traders. Is this advantage any help at all to your current problem of being unable to break out psychologically?
Anyway,good luck and hope you find the solution soon.
 
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I am really searching for a way to conquer this mental block, I have never encountered anything so tough to this point in my life. I guess when you want something so badly, you'll either evetually get it or go crazy trying :D

You encountered resistance that you need to release. The Sedona Method deals just with things like that...

Well, anyway, just my 2 cents...
 
I will most definitely read up on this method and see if this is something that makes sense for me. Its nice to hear of others, such as your friend, who has had success getting though their problems. I will "google" it tonight!

Quote from electron:

You encountered resistance that you need to release. The Sedona Method deals just with things like that...

Well, anyway, just my 2 cents...
 
Quote from Steve Tvardek:

I have recently become very interested in the subconscious mind and its ability to become altered to help traders break through barriers in trading. From the little I know on the matter, by bypassing the conscious mind (which is biased and opinionated based on life experiences) and allowing information to access only the subconscious, important messages can get through which can have great impact on our trading.
I dont know if anyone has ever tried any form of hypnosis of any kind either with a professional or through an audio form such as a CD, but am very interested in hearing from anyone who has experience/opinions on the matter. As for me, I am very consistent, make money almost every single day (btw $200-$600 range) but am having the hardest time breaking out and really excelling.
Any thoughts?

Your post says a lot. The two main points are:

1. Your current trap

2. You understanding of things.

To get an understanding that will be very powerful for you, start on page 43 of "The wizard Within" by A. M. Krasner, PhD.

Nailing down these concepts of the mechanics of the process you need to go through sets the scene to conquer the trap you occupy. You are in it for a reason and you know what the reason is quite well and the reason is correct.

By plying yourself daily with thoughtful, rational intellectual considerations, you will be able to "wake up and see" what to do.


In other words, your abiding________, will be resolved by allowing your subconcious to "operate" nightly on organizing your new upcoming sequence of daily thoughts to rebalance what is really out of whack right now. right now you are reinforcing being out of whack and "proving" that you belong in the trap.

All of your upcoming rational thinking and considering will gradually get organized and displace the subconscious framework that you have up to now put in place and are pouring concrete around.

This stops the pouring of concrete and replaces the source of concrete with "thinking consciously and rationally during the day (after you have read the reference). At night a reorganization and displacement gradually occurs. When you awaken you have a new perspective that will "hit" you or "cross your mind" as you, again begin to think rationally about things. Repetition of this is not just a linear effort; it is an exponential reinforcement that take you out of the realm you are in (because you are finished with it) and into another plateau of considerations.

Some of the plateaux ahead deal with concerns of moving the decimal point up to 4 times. then you need to consider how much of the cummulative market you can trade without affecting it (it is important to not affect the market for money making reasons).

I know this post is a little too specific and just sovles ant kind of trader's problem in a few weeks. This is just a personal clinical hypnotherapy solution. the biochemical difficulty that is pervasive with you can be nailed by doing an exhaustive daily sports schedule concurrently. Go for 10,000 units of vitamin C daily too.
 
If anyone needs a hypnotist its me. I made one mistake today which cost me approxiametly 40% of my net (simulated) profits. Yes I'm no longer trading live. Anyways it is the exact same mistake that I make over and over (it has cost me tens of thousands of dollars in the past.)

Another point I would like to make is that if you really want to increase earning potential you should switch to futures its the way to go.

P.S started using Ninja today izzzz pretty damn sweeet.

ozzy

edit: any one know why the quality of the picture so bad.
 

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