The Stochastic Indicator
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Okay this is all to the good.
These posts show that people are staying loose as gooses.
You have the ability now a days to do anything and you make points when you do .
you are doing well to see no flaws and seeing the pace increase for the first times.
Here is the situation. you see slower paces and you stay tuned to fast pace possibilities. You take the $$ out of the slow paces and then as you see the rocket (fast pace pick up in pm, you jsut move into the faster pace and stay with the ensuing trend.
What has been going on for months is a very very good am to midday functioning. You let things slow down usually on VDU's or failure to traverse right to left and then go into the CCC slalom modus.
The midday to pm moves are from slow pace to rockets or to higher volatility laterals. These, (HVL's) can unfold as up to three moves to slalom.
We will ease into moving from midday duldrums with bracket enties as a rule. You use the stop log to get the centering, and the distance to offset the bracket tools. All three values show up on the stop log. you can circle the centering... then box each crossed out bracket above and below the center.
You look for the rokcet going into the bracket. Bingo.
Next you are logging stuff and looking at volume. The volume tells you whether the rocket will fail into an iceberg and there you hold for the iceberg to continue a slow trend in that direction.
You also look as a beginner to do a flat exit.
Experts can slalom Icebergs. I have not let experts do slaloms on bergs before but some are stepping up to the plate to pull more cash out by treating the iceberg as a "change" modus.
Look I do not want to ever cause confusion. what I am saying is stay on the lesser expert level and be thorough. Pull the cash that way. If you are loose and ahead of the beat at the plate and you know how the pitchers strategize, then you go into "slalom" for icebergs. You MUST build co0nfidence from repeated skill usage.
Dawg is saying something really vital here. He is posting only new stuff. He is in a groove for sure. He is seeing stuff he hyandles with skill and automaticvally. Dawg is pulling money all the time now.
The IT is a "long" trend. It is the carrier upon which our rockes icebergs and slaloms ride. This is a big time notion. You are finally getting a multi fractal picture on your screens. The IT term is days and days long.
If we test the S or R which is tipped according to the IT channel, then a lot of energy is involved. This means big time that if BO's on IT occur, you are going to really clean up.
It is not common anywhere on ET for anyone using any method to "feel" the CARRIER.
the carrrier gives you another major thing. Get this down right now since we are really on the ball. the long/ short ratio of durations for rocketsm, etc. , affected by the slope of the IT trend that is the carrier. If we have a strong IT trend carrier the ratios will be higher. so you groove knowing one of the two rocket directions is definitely longer than the other. when you see similar lengths for both, you are in a saucer turn on the IT trend. When you have head and shoulders IT trend reversals, then the odd harmonics prevail on the IT carrier. when you have double bottoms (tops) even harmonics prevail on the IT carrier.
Okay just soak there for a minute. If you are grooving on the beginner level let all this stuff go out the other ear. If you are feeling that you have time on your hands as you make money, then get ready to digest all this carrier stuff for IT along side of making money.
What everyone has on their hands now is that all of you are breaking into new money making territory.
I am a person who happens to have it all down cold. You have not been in a place where I am. This is just the way it is. Guys like W. J. O'Neil's protogege's have had the experience of days of me performing. They get to see nuances too. Yesterday about 25 people got to have an experience in the realm of money velocity acceleration for about 8 hours.
Throughout the next periods of time, you must be ready to handle other plateaux (this is a plural word) of thinking. I do 8 of them. We are nearing getting to half way through the first level of expertise available.
You recognize stuff. I am the person who swiftly amplifies what you recognize.
When Dawg says he is seeing stuff in a routine manner, then I see that we need to be sure dawg is pulling 3 to 5,000 dollars a day out of the market.
At ET there are a group of lurkers (positive statement) who are experts and it turns out they trade a variety of entities.
This group explores a few anomolies here and there with respect to these entities. Some exchanges (like sidney) provide additional indirect data that corroborates what's happening.
The direct data experts use is price and volume, and price formation are an extension of direct data. Also experts pair fractals continually for their sequences in order to deepen their decision making.
Making money is habit forming. Making money at higher and higher money velocities is a dynamic process that is usually only impeded by "personal situations" that arise from history.
The compound interest phenomena noted in nature by John Napier of 2.7xxxxx fame and in theoretical physics by Einstein in relitavistic and non-relitavistic theory all tell us that the end is muchmore important than the beginning.
For people going from 35 to 65 can be broken into three 10 year groups. the first two periods of compounding for ten years do not yield much. years 21 through 30 are big time.
I am using ES emini to skip the first 20 years for everyone who wishes. I did it using stocks in the late 50' and early 60's, when it was a little more out of the box than nowadays.
what we do to get there is as follows. we make money on beginner, and intermediate levels. This is not a paper trading exercise. Until you do beginner with money you haven't started.
We are looking at 30 years. And within the first year we set a pace of making money that includes beginner and intermediate.
This slug of capital gains is what goes into the 30 years of compounding as one value.
After we get intermediate out of the way, then I can start to replace the first 20 years of compounding that doesn't do much for anyone ordinarily.
There is a thread here on startingwith 40K to do whatever somewhere. The participants as a group are not in the elite modus; they are figuring out other stuff for a while.
The actual economic thing that is needed doing is to accelerate money velocity. We have to make each dollar available do more than a normal dollar can do.
I am going to explain it in one sentence. We will build a carrier system to do compounding of compounding of compounding.
Carrier 1. The IT.
Carrier 2. Icebergs.
Carrier 3. slaloming.
experts will inherently do a triple cpompounding. We all are also leveraged with our dollars as another accelerator.
Where is this done elsewhere in the financial industry now? I do it with wealth building all the time for families. For example:.
For 30 years: Run a 50,000 CD at x%, ETF the interest into 250,000 UL(not indexed) at below MEC to pay premiums.. I pick up the marginal tax savings on the tax a nd it goes into a mutual fund in a 401 Tax deferred (59 bucks to 4K bucks over 30 years.). The wealth building in the UL (tax deferred) is rolled into a qualified vehicle that goes to the next generation and the deferred tax is eliminated. I do the same for the 401 qualified rollover into the next generation.
If all the above was previously a moronic half of "buy 30 yr level term and invest the rest in a CD"; I use the term payments (12,000 application) into a deferred application and roll the deferred ( to eliminate paying it) into a next generation. The former LOC on this (33,000) just goes to the estate.
Here you see three levels of capital compounding too.
Before the term policy and the 50k cd netted 40K over 30 years
and the combo that replaces it generates over 400 K net.
This is making all the 30 years work by getting new dollars from the get go.
You see straight compounding of capital level 1
You see building capital by deferring payment of taxes and then not ever paying taxes. level 2.
You see LOC recaptured any way desired. level 3.
Financial planners work with needs and goals and they make the 40K
I work with effective use of resource and efficient wealth building as all the rules change in the country every year that goes by. the basis of effective use of resourses (putting them in the appropriate place as the rules change) and eficiency stuff all combined is known as money velocity acceleration. Thus, I pull down 400K.
We will fully focus on how experts are riding 3 carriers to accelerate money velocity. this is not difficult, just like redo the crap in the financial industry is not difficult. All that is needed is to trensfer knowledge skills and experience.
The Key for carrier 1 is to know and expect the ratio of Long to short trades to be in effect. there has not been an ET thread on this as yet.
The Key for carrier 2 is just rockets and icebergs, we have that down.
The Key for carrier 3 is "change", slaloming, fractal pairs and timing signals from our sequences. We are going to use flaw cards for "change" (This invokes reversal strategy that we know already) and timing. And I have to take you to the correct fractal of the pair to slalom using stuff you already know.
As you saw we used "tape" trends to get to slower fractals and this turned icebergs into rockets for beginners to play.
this time we go the other way to slalom. We will slalom on icebergs and we will slalom the CC of CCC. The last C of CCC will be a bracket prep exercise. This takes10 point days to 20 point days just for your reference (per contract).
I also want to get into a mulitple contract strategy. you can simply see this as a dollar multiplier as well. If you played 1 dollar as a beginner, you have simply saved those dollars in the first year of the 30 year model. We take those dollars out of savings now. We use them in bunches representing contracts.
you can see that they are in being used inexpert applications so they are going to have high velocities and we accelerate the velocity by putting them to work BESIDE other dollars. So an old dollar has 4 others worlike BESIDE it as the phenomena of "acceleration of dollars".
We will apply additional profit dollars to add more contracts as bunches are filled.
The result is that we skip two 10 year increments of compounding only initial capital. For a normal 30 year life cycle you will go from year 1 to year 21 then to year 22 , 23, etc.
No one here thinks this way yet. You will not be able to trade ES eminis in bigger side by sides than at a certain level. We will not want to affect markets. Therefore, we have to lay off capital into other places. This is in the framework of letting Gates, Ellison and Buffett work for you. The mutual fund path is not going to be used. You can drop back to a growth pace like 10% every 6 to 8 days using an equities venue; I do that because it only takes 20 to 30 mins a day of effort. Other places are like having Habitat for Humanity working for you doing something you need done where you live..
Okay now we will get experts stuff refined and in the groove using a money velocity acceleration.
This group explores a few anomolies here and there with respect to these entities. Some exchanges (like sidney) provide additional indirect data that corroborates what's happening.
The direct data experts use is price and volume, and price formation are an extension of direct data. Also experts pair fractals continually for their sequences in order to deepen their decision making.
Making money is habit forming. Making money at higher and higher money velocities is a dynamic process that is usually only impeded by "personal situations" that arise from history.
The compound interest phenomena noted in nature by John Napier of 2.7xxxxx fame and in theoretical physics by Einstein in relitavistic and non-relitavistic theory all tell us that the end is muchmore important than the beginning.
For people going from 35 to 65 can be broken into three 10 year groups. the first two periods of compounding for ten years do not yield much. years 21 through 30 are big time.
I am using ES emini to skip the first 20 years for everyone who wishes. I did it using stocks in the late 50' and early 60's, when it was a little more out of the box than nowadays.
what we do to get there is as follows. we make money on beginner, and intermediate levels. This is not a paper trading exercise. Until you do beginner with money you haven't started.
We are looking at 30 years. And within the first year we set a pace of making money that includes beginner and intermediate.
This slug of capital gains is what goes into the 30 years of compounding as one value.
After we get intermediate out of the way, then I can start to replace the first 20 years of compounding that doesn't do much for anyone ordinarily.
There is a thread here on startingwith 40K to do whatever somewhere. The participants as a group are not in the elite modus; they are figuring out other stuff for a while.
The actual economic thing that is needed doing is to accelerate money velocity. We have to make each dollar available do more than a normal dollar can do.
I am going to explain it in one sentence. We will build a carrier system to do compounding of compounding of compounding.
Carrier 1. The IT.
Carrier 2. Icebergs.
Carrier 3. slaloming.
experts will inherently do a triple cpompounding. We all are also leveraged with our dollars as another accelerator.
Where is this done elsewhere in the financial industry now? I do it with wealth building all the time for families. For example:.
For 30 years: Run a 50,000 CD at x%, ETF the interest into 250,000 UL(not indexed) at below MEC to pay premiums.. I pick up the marginal tax savings on the tax a nd it goes into a mutual fund in a 401 Tax deferred (59 bucks to 4K bucks over 30 years.). The wealth building in the UL (tax deferred) is rolled into a qualified vehicle that goes to the next generation and the deferred tax is eliminated. I do the same for the 401 qualified rollover into the next generation.
If all the above was previously a moronic half of "buy 30 yr level term and invest the rest in a CD"; I use the term payments (12,000 application) into a deferred application and roll the deferred ( to eliminate paying it) into a next generation. The former LOC on this (33,000) just goes to the estate.
Here you see three levels of capital compounding too.
Before the term policy and the 50k cd netted 40K over 30 years
and the combo that replaces it generates over 400 K net.
This is making all the 30 years work by getting new dollars from the get go.
You see straight compounding of capital level 1
You see building capital by deferring payment of taxes and then not ever paying taxes. level 2.
You see LOC recaptured any way desired. level 3.
Financial planners work with needs and goals and they make the 40K
I work with effective use of resource and efficient wealth building as all the rules change in the country every year that goes by. the basis of effective use of resourses (putting them in the appropriate place as the rules change) and eficiency stuff all combined is known as money velocity acceleration. Thus, I pull down 400K.
We will fully focus on how experts are riding 3 carriers to accelerate money velocity. this is not difficult, just like redo the crap in the financial industry is not difficult. All that is needed is to trensfer knowledge skills and experience.
The Key for carrier 1 is to know and expect the ratio of Long to short trades to be in effect. there has not been an ET thread on this as yet.
The Key for carrier 2 is just rockets and icebergs, we have that down.
The Key for carrier 3 is "change", slaloming, fractal pairs and timing signals from our sequences. We are going to use flaw cards for "change" (This invokes reversal strategy that we know already) and timing. And I have to take you to the correct fractal of the pair to slalom using stuff you already know.
As you saw we used "tape" trends to get to slower fractals and this turned icebergs into rockets for beginners to play.
this time we go the other way to slalom. We will slalom on icebergs and we will slalom the CC of CCC. The last C of CCC will be a bracket prep exercise. This takes10 point days to 20 point days just for your reference (per contract).
I also want to get into a mulitple contract strategy. you can simply see this as a dollar multiplier as well. If you played 1 dollar as a beginner, you have simply saved those dollars in the first year of the 30 year model. We take those dollars out of savings now. We use them in bunches representing contracts.
you can see that they are in being used inexpert applications so they are going to have high velocities and we accelerate the velocity by putting them to work BESIDE other dollars. So an old dollar has 4 others worlike BESIDE it as the phenomena of "acceleration of dollars".
We will apply additional profit dollars to add more contracts as bunches are filled.
The result is that we skip two 10 year increments of compounding only initial capital. For a normal 30 year life cycle you will go from year 1 to year 21 then to year 22 , 23, etc.
No one here thinks this way yet. You will not be able to trade ES eminis in bigger side by sides than at a certain level. We will not want to affect markets. Therefore, we have to lay off capital into other places. This is in the framework of letting Gates, Ellison and Buffett work for you. The mutual fund path is not going to be used. You can drop back to a growth pace like 10% every 6 to 8 days using an equities venue; I do that because it only takes 20 to 30 mins a day of effort. Other places are like having Habitat for Humanity working for you doing something you need done where you live..
Okay now we will get experts stuff refined and in the groove using a money velocity acceleration.
Translation: Compound interest is good.
Jack,
Your comments about position of IT carrier and its affects I find extremely interesting and insightful (but need to review it thoroughly before I can absorb it).
- Steep negative slope IT channels translate to -> longer duration oversold rockets
- Steep positive slope IT channels translate to -> longer duration overbought rockets
- Saucers ( or the cup portion of the cup and handle ?) IT channels translate to -> approximately equal duration of oversold/overbought rockets
- Double bottoms (tops) IT channels, even harmonics in frequency domain dominate and translate to -> square wavelike (staircase) trends in time domain
- Head and shoulders IT channel reversals, odd harmonics in frequency domain dominate and translate to -> non symmetrical triangularish wavelike (tooths and wiggles) trends in time domain.
Hope I stated the above correctly.
This is some very powerful stuff. Kewl
Your comments about position of IT carrier and its affects I find extremely interesting and insightful (but need to review it thoroughly before I can absorb it).
- Steep negative slope IT channels translate to -> longer duration oversold rockets
- Steep positive slope IT channels translate to -> longer duration overbought rockets
- Saucers ( or the cup portion of the cup and handle ?) IT channels translate to -> approximately equal duration of oversold/overbought rockets
- Double bottoms (tops) IT channels, even harmonics in frequency domain dominate and translate to -> square wavelike (staircase) trends in time domain
- Head and shoulders IT channel reversals, odd harmonics in frequency domain dominate and translate to -> non symmetrical triangularish wavelike (tooths and wiggles) trends in time domain.
Hope I stated the above correctly.
This is some very powerful stuff. Kewl
Retranslation: People find out 20 years too late that compound interest has to be done for a long time before any relative major wealth is built.
Therefore is is necessary for these people to have an alternative to jump start what they have now (20 years too late). The time compression strategy alternative for the first 20 years is money velocity acceleration.
As you look at the threads throughout ET, you find that even the concepts of money velocity are very sparse. To find out how to change velocity (in physics this is acceleration) by doing a search at ET is not too fruitful.
People here are just finding out how IRA's work.
This thread has witnessed a lot of commentary about what cannot be done. People who "know" what cannot be done wind up being the last people who can grasp concepts about being very rich. After rich comes very rich. a person has to be able o see as did Napier and Einstein that the part of compounding that works best is the last third.
you will find out the essence of what I do is to get people to the last part of the compounding opportunity by not dragging along in unfruitful areas.
There are some people here who feel there are learning curves which preceed making money. This is an unfortunate result of their reasoning. It is very important to skip and not learn about unprofitable things. These must be skipped intentionally by not doing anything along the lines of loosing time in making money. Lost time is the phenomena of not compounding.
The not too obvious alternatives that they have missed is just doing things like:
1. letting the market decide and take you into a trade.
2. not using prediction which does not work and betting on the prediction with capital.
3. entering the market at any time when you do not know what is going on.
4. failing to learn and practice wash (flat ) trades in lieu of holding as money is lost in 3. above.
5. etc, etc.
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