The Slumping South

Live and let live is a good construct.

The problem arises when one side becomes so self perceived superior ... intellectually, economically, etc that it must force its culture (and laws) upon on the other which has fallen to sub-human levels (at least in their perception).

Trotsky, Mao, Pol Pot, etc come to mind.

Culturally, our military policy of forever wars shows this major shift in national attitude about whom is on the wrong end of our weaponry. I do not see it as a plus that the numbers killed with US taxpayer dollars approaching those of the Bolsheviks/Maoists.

Living in exurban Tenn (War of Northern Aggression TN), I was aghast when Truth in Accounting exposed our sophisticated city brethren in Nashville had "hidden" $6 billion in off balance sheet UAAL (unfunded actuarially accrued liabilities). I found this less than ethical behavior disappointing in our state, but likely not as disappointed as metro retirees likely will be. Fortunately, UASB is fixing some of those holes ... but an ethical mindset to begin with would have made rule changes unneeded.

My greatest fear is that once again many people in our Country on both sides will perish when the "inferiors" are permanently disenfranchised of having any control over their lives, family and wealth.

My perception of the "Civil War" was Gone with the Wind" ... until I left our corrupt, overtaxed northern metro area and began mixing with "Exurban Southerners" that after getting inside their confidence zone, they shared long preserved personal stories of rape/mayhem forced on many non-combatant in their families and neighbors. Too many to discount. Very disturbing.

War truly is hell.

Working together, even in a peaceful divorce with a few new borderlines, would be superior.
 
Trader200K said:
Live and let live is a good construct.

The problem arises when one side becomes so self perceived superior ... intellectually, economically, etc that it must force its culture (and laws) upon on the other which has fallen to sub-human levels (at least in their perception).

Trotsky, Mao, Pol Pot, etc come to mind.
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It also brings to mind federal marijuana bans, maybe banning gay marriage, which impacts the bigots not at all, and was something the federal government overrode states on for years and the majority of conservatives would like to go back to...how was that "live and let live again"? Or maybe the rest of NC overriding local law in Charlotte about transgender bathroom use...in Charlotte! Why should the redneck in Gates County who will never in their life so much as travel to Charlotte get to override their local law? Remind me how that's "live and let live" again?
The extreme lack of tolorence and attempt to impose one's own views on others is exactly what I observed rural conservatives doing my entire time growing up as a rural conservative, especially religious conservatives. It's what they're all about for cripes sake, not only do they believe they're superior they believe they know the one "right" way to do things per a 2000 year old book written by semi-literate goat herders and they insist we base our laws on that, and anyone who disagrees isn't just wrong they're evil! Your kind of breathtaking hypocrisy was what caused me to change my political views while maintaining my "live and let live" views. It sounds like you're on the wrong side my friend, everything you describe is an indelible part of today's conservative in America, while it's just an annoying side group of liberals.
 
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DallasCowboysFan said:
I live in the Dallas area. I see statistics every couple of weeks that make the Dallas/Ft Worth area shine like a supernova.

I think 300 -350 people move into the area every day. More jobs are created here every year than in many states. If you can't find a job in the area it is because your expectations are too high, you are not qualified or you need to improve your interview skills. But if you are unemployed, it is not because of the economy.

Many people are leaving the North East because of the high taxes and miserable weather. You can buy a home in the Dallas area for half the price you would pay in California or New England. Texas does not have a state income tax and states such as California, CT and Vermont want to tax you 8-10 percent for the privilege of living there. Then, you have to worry about estate taxes. And the illustrious Bernie Sanders and AOC want to introduce a Wealth tax, taxing 5% of everything you own over a certain amount. Then, I guess they will just keep taxing you every year until you are as poor as everyone else.

And the South is not Socialist. Texas is gun friendly and doesn't have assinine taxes on things like plastic shopping bags and soda.

The South is doing well. There are pockets of poverty in the South, but those are the same places that have existed for many years. We are doing fine. If someone wants to move here and start over, you are welcome here and I hope you are successful. Just leave your progressive, socialist politics behind in Cali, NY, VT and IL.
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Texas is not representative of anywhere else in the south.
 
Trader200K said:
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Too far right or too far left is also hell.

Most Americans, that vote, do so because of the fear of the far right or far left.

I have hope most of us will come to understand the enemy are those extremists before it ever comes to another Civil War.
 
I'd be curious how widespread the economic growth is in Texas or it is like most states, in concentrated regions especially urban/suburban.
 
SunTrader said:
I'd be curious how widespread the economic growth is in Texas or it is like most states, in concentrated regions especially urban/suburban.
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Texas is huge. Dallas/Ft Worth , Houston, San Antonio and Austin are all doing well.

Many people from rural, country areas are moving to these cities.
But so are people from other states. I see a lot of license plates from other states.

Texas has a diverse economy, but it does even better when oil prices are high and suffers when natural gas and oil prices are low and they lay people off.
 
DallasCowboysFan said:
Texas is huge. Dallas/Ft Worth , Houston, San Antonio and Austin are all doing well.

Many people from rural, country areas are moving to these cities.
But so are people from other states. I see a lot of license plates from other states.

Texas has a diverse economy, but it does even better when oil prices are high and suffers when natural gas and oil prices are low and they lay people off.
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To their credit Texas, along with NC, have realized the value of a robust startup community which they have in Austin. There's a perfect niche for both states for startups that also require a lot of affordable skilled labor, not sure they've quite exploited that like they could yet but they'll get there. Of course not for nothing they call it the people's republic of Austin....
 
Probably helps that Texas is a big state land-wise. Keep the BillyBob's and Progressive Techies from mixing .... too much. Otherwise the Techsters might just mosey on down the road to another state.

Either way Silicon Valley need not worry.
 
SunTrader said:
Probably helps that Texas is a big state land-wise. Keep the BillyBob's and Progressive Techies from mixing .... too much. Otherwise the Techsters might just mosey on down the road to another state.

Either way Silicon Valley need not worry.
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I think they should worry a little.
SV's best days are behind it. It's still the best place in the world for IT talent and new ideas, but they have become a victim of their own success.

Even if you make 100k a year, you can't have an apartment without a roommate, maybe 2-3.
Homes in the SF area average $1.6MN and the local politicians allow people to defecate on the sidewalks and shoot drugs in public. And California will still take up to 10% of your income.

There are many other alternatives around the country that provide someone the opportunity to pursue your dreams and still have a reasonable lifestyle.
 
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