The Shock Doctrine: The Rise and Fall of Disaster Capitalism

Is this a "schock of upheaval, reshaping" of financial systems?

  • Yes, the flow of financial systems is being changed!

    Votes: 12 34.3%
  • No, it is just a band-aid -- nothing is fundamentally changing.

    Votes: 8 22.9%
  • Trust! We need better trust in systems and integrirty. End corruption...

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • USA! USA! USA! USA!

    Votes: 9 25.7%

  • Total voters
    35
Pretty interesting stuff. The June 2008 book by Naomi Klein, makes some compelling views on how it all "ties together".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein

I'm a big fan of systems science...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_science


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There are several parts to this interview 01 - 06.


Interesting how George W. Bush's father talked of a peace dividend with economic benefits to ending the Cold War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_dividend

:)
 
Financial systems - the flow of economic resources
World system - the flow of resources in the world; human, systemic, natural resources, geo conflict
Cultural system - everything is an equity; celebrity, social, marketing, idolization, paparazzi, arts, fashion
Career system - grants, projects, research, theories, indoctrination, reputation, recognition, promotion
Media system - coverage, projects, investigations, publishing, newsworthiness, connotations
Intellect system - intellectual property rights, DMCA, idea control, creation control, patenting

Conservative - keep the system alive, we like it like it is, "old money", "old boys club", be quiet about it
Neoconservative - have right to disrupt - "liberate", reshape systems, claim their rights, unilateral, non-consential, Shock&Awe
Liberal - consensus changes, social justice, welfare, share the burden, egalitarianism, ethics
Libertarian - let the systems control themselves, agnostic, detachment, isolation
Socialist - extreme nullification of equity, total equality, strict system control, authoritarian

System creation - commoditize anything, equity entities, create industry, privatize
System control - support, charity, lobby, politics, slander, scandal, public image, INTERVENTIONS, REGULATIONS
System bias - greed, parasites, fraud, corruption, fear-uncertainty-doubt
System interest - persons, families, organizations, networks
System encumbering - obfuscating, tap into more aspects, hamper efficiency, stop transparency, more laws, more work
System profiling - identification of everything, accumulate, extrapolation, prediction modelling, learning

System trust - absent, none, sans integrity, social control, chaos theory, elite theory, decision theory, corporatism
Democracy - obfuscated - encumbered - structured flow routes - influences - interests - rule of flow control - another brick in the wall

Influentials: power projection - interests - investments - protection - defense - indoctrination - political capital - ideas - beliefs

Anglosphere , Heartland , Halford Mackinder , James Burnham , Cecil Rhodes , Charles Murray - The Bell Curve and welfare , Neocons

World resources control - system flow - reshape systems through upheaval - interests of influence - profits - poverty - polarize
The Marshal plan ... etc.

If you are religious - please read father Gary Dorrien's articles on ethics and neoconservatism.
He is the authority in the world on the subject.


www.anglospherechallenge.com
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state (neocon AND paleocon concept)

Bzzzt...

E-democracy - Transhumanism - Representative direct democracy - Red pill
... evolution , adaptation , progress , futurology , systems science


If you don't understand the above - you will likely never amount to understand anything in life anyway...
Make sure your kids get a proper education, at least...


It will be interesting to see how many of you can answer "correctly" in the poll ... just a reflection of realities.

[size=-2]Charles Murray does make some compelling points about intelligence, doesn't he... and he is one in support for neocon system upheaval, reshaping.
Read Murrays articles online at the American Enterprise Institute, and his books on books.google.com.
PS! Always leave a "sink" in polls for those who are totally lost and clueless, couldn't care more, etc.[/size]
 
Quote from Thermactor:

My answer:
USA! USA! USA! USA!
FWIW

I guess it really sunk in, and you passed the test - with flying (your) colours!
:D

[size=-2]BTW what is it worth...? What is the human, social and economic cost of cancerous growth, and parasitic tapping into everything with corruption...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Americanism , en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Europeanism , en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism , en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism[/size]

You guys GOT to get out the cancerous and parasitic growths over there...
Use your intelligence and voting skills, for Chrissakes...
 
Capitalism, innovation and enterprise is the basic of the human psychology.

While Disaster Capitalism was doomed to go down but Captialsim in its core sense never will and never should! :D

Gangster Capitalism is another name for Disaster Capitalism. Something that took hold of the US in the late 80s. Time to clean the system and look forward again! :D
 
I am what I'd like to call a purely capitalist - in favour of sustainable growth and Laissez-faire...

From a systems philosophy perspective: (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_philosophy)

Libertarians - The Non-aggression principle - Laissez-faire
Liberals - Lets just get along, can't we...
Conservatives - Morality - Just War - Containment
Neoconservatives - Aggression - Logic - Upheaval - Reshaping - "Liberation"

Religion - Reinhold Niebuhr (the leading expert in the world is father Dr. Gary Dorrien, Columbia University).


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_in_international_relations
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_radicalism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Niebuhr


I live in Brazil - the country with the largest number of bulletproof cars in the world.
Corruption here is rampant and has saturated society, and education is next to worthless in Brazil.
TV here is worthless crap, mindless numbing zombie-drool - it gives you an brain-ache (ice-ache).
 
Wow!

Every former Secretary of State on CNN are butchering the Neoconservatives in their first round of comments...

Impressive! I hope the world have seen the last of the NEOCONSERVATIVES that culminated with George W. Bush - with unprecedented greed and aggression for resources of the world.
:)

I hope we never see their elite theories arise again... and may their corrupt soles (sic) just burn on their way out!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_theory


Wow II...
Colin Powell just beheaded John McCain, and got a laughter from the crowd... We're NOT all Georgians.
:eek:


I think this roundtable of former secretaries constitutes almost a coup d'état -- outlining future foreign policy and international relations -- guidelines for the next presidency. The next presidency will have a lot of difficulty to stray away from these pieces of advice -- on Iran and Russia.

Hehe, unless some "shocking upheaving event 'suddenly' occurs"...
 
Anyone think we have seen the last of the Bush legacy and his counsel of Neoconservatives and their associated "elites"?
I wonder what will come next...
:(
 
Theodore Roosevelt "Muckrake Speech" of 1906:
"There are, in the body politic, economic and social, many and grave evils, and there is urgent necessity for the sternest war upon them. There should be relentless exposure of and attack upon every evil man whether politician or business man, every evil practice, whether in politics, in business, or in social life. I hail as a benefactor every writer or speaker, every man who, on the platform, or in book, magazine, or newspaper, with merciless severity makes such attack, provided always that he in his turn remembers that the attack is of use only if it is absolutely truthful."
http://www.freedom-force.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Edward_Griffin
"The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America:_Freedom_to_Fascism
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&q=freedom+to+facism+duration:long
Some of the premises of the 2006 film include:
• The Federal Reserve System is unconstitutional and has maxed out the national debt and bankrupted the United States government.
• Federal income taxes were imposed in response to, or as part of, the plan implementing the Federal Reserve System.
• Federal income taxes are unconstitutional or otherwise legally invalid.
• The use of the Federal income tax to counter the economic effects of the Federal Reserve System is futile.


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Part 1-7 from Griffin.

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Part 1-5 from Griffin.

Sounds somewhat "familiar to" anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayer_Amschel_Rothschild
Mayer Amschel Rothschild: "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavus_Myers
"History of the Great American Fortunes"

Strongly financially influential "old-money":

• Rothschild family, London
• Rothschild family, Berlin
• Lazard Bros, Paris
• Israel Seiff , Italy
• Kuhn-Loeb Co, Germany
• Warburg family, Amsterdam
• Warburg family, Hamburg
• Lehman Bros, New York
• Goldmann & Sachs, New York
• Rockefeller family, New York

Some lesser ones, but still "old-money" and packs influence
• Bush family, New Jersey/Texas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine


Other "niceties"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi_Beta_Kappa_Society
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Scholarship

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_politics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Democracy
 
Funny that people are not more outraged in the US...

You guys in your 50s who thought you were going to retire in your low 60s... hahahaha, seems like there are other plans out there for you. Better put your backs into it this time... *crack the whip*
 
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