The Secret

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Although i am no expert i think i can recommend reading about Huna - the esoteric knowledge of Hawaiian shamanism. They have a Yahoo group.

"The only way you can have your life exactly the way you want it, is to be connected to Spirit." There are many esoteric paths, there are many teachers, and many ways to the light. Ultimately they all lead to the same place within you, to the great light, which is the source of consciousness. Know this -- all the ancient teachings are One. In seeking the ancient way look for the similarities NOT the differences."
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There are similarities here with Huna. The question in my mind is whether Master Key and Huna are independently observing/describing phenomenon or just retelling observation of third party. I do not dispute quality of observation, but method of arrival.

To be clearer.

Case 1:
A sees reality X;
B sees reality X;
A & B come to same conclusion which is understood by C as more trustworthy since they were independently observed.

Case 2:
A sees reality X and/or reads info Y about reality X;
B sees reality X and/or reads info Y about reality X;
A & B come to same conclusion, but it is less trustworthy to C since observations of A and B are not independent of each other (info Y is similar).

So with Master Key and Huna, we *may* have a Case2 since both systems where created at approximately the same time. For example Huna founder (Huna is a reconstructed system... Max F. Long) might have very well read Master Key.
 
There is some error in your assertions here. The secret and all other secrets are from one Universal truth (yes, regurgitated and manifested in different ways)
Achieving wealth and power is not however the objective of these ancient secrets that are derived from Tibetan Buddhism and before the Ancient wisdom thought by the masters at the Mystery schools (Plato was one student there). The one thing you missing here is to finally archive Nirvana and total consciousness you would have to forgo your ego and yearning of material wealth. The idea of money and trading and "making it" was never part of this equation. God cannot be bought like a bag of beans :)
When you stop caring and worrying all about money and success then it will finally come to you !

to find out more use this link instead but I must say the others are right on track.
http://www.ancientwisdomcentral.us
 
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There is some error in your assertions here. The secret and all other secrets are from one Universal truth (yes, regurgitated and manifested in different ways)
Achieving wealth and power is not however the objective of these ancient secrets that are derived from Tibetan Buddhism and before the Ancient wisdom thought by the masters at the Mystery schools (Plato was one student there). The one thing you missing here is to finally archive Nirvana and total consciousness you would have to forgo your ego and yearning of material wealth. The idea of money and trading and "making it" was never part of this equation. God cannot be bought like a bag of beans :)
When you stop caring and worrying all about money and success then it will finally come to you !

to find out more use this link instead but I must say the others are right on track.
http://www.ancientwisdomcentral.us
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I study western occultism and Nirvana is merely transcending desire, a peculiar eastern concept that all the work has been done when in fact very little karma has been cleared and several more incarnations are guaranteed, you see we are put here to learn the lessons of duality not reject them. And I think you confuse abundance with wealth, abundance encompasses so much more than mere money
 
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There is some error in your assertions here. The secret and all other secrets are from one Universal truth (yes, regurgitated and manifested in different ways) ......
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My post was last, so I will assume that you referred to it. I generally agree with what you said, except that it does not seem to be related to point raised by me.

Try, reading exactly what my message said. I was questioning relationship between 2 belief systems. w/o familiarity with both of the areas, one can't really effectively comment on my post.
 
I agree. But your brought up Bill Gates and napoleon hill. While I agree with some of the teachings of these self-help books I reject any idea of attributing success to simply reading a book. After reading the material a little closer I have already found that the author simply uses some of the esoteric mysticism and philosophy to apply it into self-help with the notion of achieving success. Unfortunately 99-percent of people (mainly Americans) will equate success with material wealth. When money is only a small part of success, Note most lotto winners end up poor after squandering their easily attained lucky wealth. I wonder what will happen to our new hero in Nebraska who won the Jackpot.
Having money is a lot of pressure of keeping it and only few will manage to do so...
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What do you mean by duality?
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I study western occultism and Nirvana is merely transcending desire, a peculiar eastern concept that all the work has been done when in fact very little karma has been cleared and several more incarnations are guaranteed, you see we are put here to learn the lessons of duality not reject them. And I think you confuse abundance with wealth, abundance encompasses so much more than mere money
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In general I was commenting on the original poster and the general idea of success=money (after all we are traders :)
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My post was last, so I will assume that you referred to it. I generally agree with what you said, except that it does not seem to be related to point raised by me.

Try, reading exactly what my message said. I was questioning relationship between 2 belief systems. w/o familiarity with both of the areas, one can't really effectively comment on my post.
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Quote from andrasnm:

I agree. But your brought up Bill Gates and napoleon hill. While I agree with some of the teachings of these self-help books I reject any idea of attributing success to simply reading a book. After reading the material a little closer I have already found that the author simply uses some of the esoteric mysticism and philosophy to apply it into self-help with the notion of achieving success. Unfortunately 99-percent of people (mainly Americans) will equate success with material wealth. When money is only a small part of success, Note most lotto winners end up poor after squandering their easily attained lucky wealth. I wonder what will happen to our new hero in Nebraska who won the Jackpot.
Having money is a lot of pressure of keeping it and only few will manage to do so...
P.S.
What do you mean by duality?
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Well what else is going to get a site full of traders to read something like that???... sometimes you have to say "open wide, here comes the airplane" when you spoon feed


The plane of duality (maya/illusion) the physical plane as opposed to the reality of oneness
 
The Secret? LOL. Don't even know why i read through all that non sense. To be successful, "IMHO" you have to work hard for your goal. You want to be a billionare? Sure you can, but the only thing that is going against you is Father Time and how much you really want it. So instead of reading all these crap, any books for that matter, try to accomplish your goal because something makes you wake up when the alarm goes off in the morning, find what you want in this life and go after it. If you wait too long, you can only look back in pity. All these successful people knew what they wanted to be and they worked hard for it. Bill gates worked hard for his empire. Btw, i have a notebook here filled with all sorts of things about the "Secret" that i have picked up in my spare time. Go sit down on the couch, get a notebook, and think about everything in life, your surroundings, why this are the way they are, everything. The real secret is priceless because it is different for individual. Hope i inspired some of you, oh and please dont try to poke fun at every little thing i said, because they are all my opinion and i started off making that clear!!!
 
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