lol. i hit a nerve. for someone with a law degree to call you those things i suspect he may have had a good reason. why dont you honestly tell us what you said that set him off so we can make a judgement.
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The Science of Fox News: Why Its Viewers are the Most Misinformed
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lol. i hit a nerve. for someone with a law degree to call you those things i suspect he may have had a good reason. why dont you honestly tell us what you said that set him off so we can make a judgement.
Quote from Brass:
but please be aware that I strongly believe they were largely born of racial discrimination towards the president....
...Against this background, you may wish to ask yourself why your friend said what he did.
I believe he reacted the way he did because he believes as you do in your quote above. I don't agree with that assessment, but that is for another discussion. I agree with the views they hold regarding government overreach in many areas of our lives. I believe the following might be a few:
I have no problem with paying taxes; I just hate the way the money is wasted. Because of the waste and fraud, I think my taxes are too high.
I don't like losing my rights because others abuse the same rights.
Do these two examples make me an extremist?
you know what is nice about these forums...
there is no doubt the right is really the middle to libertarian and the left is really screwed up.
The left is willing to take away all your individual rights.
They want to you to think and speak the party line
And the party line is not even internally consistent.
Basically the left wants you to be afraid of middle age well educated white people called the tea party when all the tea party wants is to be left alone and to decrease spending.
The true monster is the all powerful large leftist govt the drones on this promote every day.
1. Oh you have Relgious rights to choose - screw you.
2. Oh you wish to be able to afford to live on 150,000 thousand a year in CA. Screw you we are raising your taxes 36,000.
3. Oh you wish to be free to choose whether to pay insurance premiums to a third party. Screw you and the constitution pay them.
4. You wish to see all people treated the same... screw you, you are a racist homophobe and if you dare think a contrary thought we will try and convict of hate crimes.
5. And by the way... if you do not like an all powerful Federal Govt...
That is klanspeak.
there is no doubt the right is really the middle to libertarian and the left is really screwed up.
The left is willing to take away all your individual rights.
They want to you to think and speak the party line
And the party line is not even internally consistent.
Basically the left wants you to be afraid of middle age well educated white people called the tea party when all the tea party wants is to be left alone and to decrease spending.
The true monster is the all powerful large leftist govt the drones on this promote every day.
1. Oh you have Relgious rights to choose - screw you.
2. Oh you wish to be able to afford to live on 150,000 thousand a year in CA. Screw you we are raising your taxes 36,000.
3. Oh you wish to be free to choose whether to pay insurance premiums to a third party. Screw you and the constitution pay them.
4. You wish to see all people treated the same... screw you, you are a racist homophobe and if you dare think a contrary thought we will try and convict of hate crimes.
5. And by the way... if you do not like an all powerful Federal Govt...
That is klanspeak.
On the surface, I don't think those two comments in isolation make you an extremist.Quote from wjk:
...I have no problem with paying taxes; I just hate the way the money is wasted. Because of the waste and fraud, I think my taxes are too high.
I don't like losing my rights because others abuse the same rights.
Do these two examples make me an extremist?
However, answer me this. As you may know, there are a few "libertarians" here who would uphold the "right" of a restaurant owner in refusing to serve blacks on the grounds of "freedom." This is a view shared by Ron Paul. Do you share this view?
Quote from Free Thinker:
lol. i hit a nerve. for someone with a law degree to call you those things i suspect he may have had a good reason. why dont you honestly tell us what you said that set him off so we can make a judgement.
Actually, I'll just quote it for you. Out of the blue:
Friend: Man, I hate those fucking tea party assholes.
Me: I don't necessarily disagree with everything they believe in.
Friend: Oh man! That makes you a racist, nazi, and extremist, too.
Quote from Brass:
On the surface, I don't think those two comments in isolation make you an extremist.
However, answer me this. As you may know, there are a few "libertarians" here who would uphold the "right" of a restaurant owner in refusing to serve blacks on the grounds of "freedom." This is a view shared by Ron Paul. Do you share this view?
I don't hold that view.
Quote from Free Thinker:
maybe. be specific. what rights have you lost? there is probably a good reason for that law.
Primarily the assualt on gun ownership every time a criminal uses a gun.
Or we could get into the multitude of gov regulation like my neighbor had to deal with putting in a swimming pool, all because someone somewhere drowned, and on and on and on.
Quote from wjk:
Primarily the assualt on gun ownership every time a criminal uses a gun.
there is almost no call for action anymore when some gun nut murders a bunch of people. i thought sure at least something would come out of the arizona congresswomen shooting. nothing was even proposed.
the us has the most lax gun rules of any major nation in the world. how much easier could it be to buy and own guns?
why specific law do you think needs to be repealed that hinders you from buying a gun?
Quote from Brass:
I don't know what views you share with Tea Partiers, but please be aware that I strongly believe they were largely born of racial discrimination towards the president. Where were they, and why were they not nearly as vociferous during Bush's administration? They pretty much exploded on the scene as soon as Obama won the election. And it was a while before the more overtly discriminatory members were reined in by the leadership. The Tea Party has since tried to whitewash those beginnings.
Also remember that the Right is about hierarchy, whereas the Left is about egalitarianism:
"In politics, the Right, right-wing and rightist has been defined as the support or acceptance of social hierarchy.[1][2][3] Inequality is viewed by the Right as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
"In politics, the Left, left-wing and leftists are people or views which support social change to create a more egalitarian society.[1][2][3][4] They usually involve a concern for those in society who are disadvantaged relative to others and an assumption that there are unjustified inequalities (which right-wing politics view as natural or traditional) that should be reduced or abolished..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
Against this background, you may wish to ask yourself what, specifically, you told your friend, and why your friend said what he did.
You keep posting this but you just totally ignored my response: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=240890&perpage=6&pagenumber=10 From the link u posted egalitarianism incorporates contradictory concepts.
The larger problem with your views of left and right wing - there is not a SINGLE society that has ever existed in which there was no social hierarchy.. not one. Are you implying that there has never been a leftist govt?