The Scary Thing About "Joe the Plumber"

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The Forgotten Man and Election 2008
By Newt Gingrich

America met Joe the Plumber last week. But a pro-market economist writing over a hundred years ago was already familiar with Joe Wurzelbacher and Americans like him -- and understood how they are used and exploited by politicians.

"They are always under the dominion of the superstition of government, and forgetting that a government produces nothing at all, they leave out of sight the first fact to be remembered in all social discussion -- that the state cannot get a cent for any man without taking it from some other man, and this latter must be a man who has produced and saved it. This latter is the Forgotten Man."

These are the words of William Graham Sumner, brilliantly analyzed and applied to 21st century America by Amity Schlaes in her recent book, The Forgotten Man.

"He Works, He Votes, Generally He Prays - But He Always Pays"

Sumner wrote of the Forgotten Man: "He works, he votes, generally he prays -- but he always pays -- yes, above all, he pays."

Joe the Plumber has struck a chord in the closing weeks of this election because he represents the Forgotten Man. When he confronted Sen. Barack Obama on the campaign trail with the question of what would happen to his taxes under an Obama Administration should he realize his dream of owning his own business, Joe cast the decision that faces us in this election in stark relief:

Which will be better for our economy: Politicians redistributing our wealth or growing more wealth?"
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The great redistributor in this campaign is Palin who hit oil companies so her family was able to collect over $20K from the state.

"Welcome to the People's Republic of Alaska, where every resident this year will get a $3,200 payout, thanks in no small measure to the efforts of Sarah Palin, the state's Republican governor. That's $22,400 for a family of seven, like Palin's. Since 1982, the Alaska Permanent Fund, which invests oil revenues from state lands, has paid out a dividend on invested oil loot to everyone who has been in the state for a year. But Palin upped the ante by joining with Democrats and some recalcitrant Republican state legislators to share in oil company windfall profits, further fattening state tax revenue and permitting an additional payout in tax funds to residents. "

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080915/scheer

Seneca
 
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Yeah, I agree, she's great!! Of course, liberals writing in publications like The Nation may disagree :)
 
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Yeah, I agree, she's great!! :)
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Check out what she said about the duties of the VP:

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”

PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

Look at the video in this link:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/palin-vp-senate/

No wonder that leading conservatives have called her a "national disgrace" and a "cancer on the Republican Party."

Seneca
 
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Check out what she said about the duties of the VP:

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”

PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

Look at the video in this link:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/palin-vp-senate/

No wonder that leading conservatives have called her a "national disgrace" and a "cancer on the Republican Party."

Seneca
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She didn't take it from working people to give it to non working people. She cut a deal where the oil companies could fairly profit, and she could alleve some of the pain her constituents felt from the highest energy prices in the nation.

Nice try, but McCain will win. And if it was two months left, he'd win by more. How did you do at the end in the primaries? That's what happens when you're all bullshit and no substance.
 
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She didn't take it from working people to give it to non working people. She cut a deal where the oil companies could fairly profit, and she could alleve some of the pain her constituents felt from the highest energy prices in the nation.

Nice try, but McCain will win. And if it was two months left, he'd win by more. How did you do at the end in the primaries? That's what happens when you're all bullshit and no substance.
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No she betrayed the oil companies that she wants to drill, drill, drill and I won't be surprised they will be far less willing to do so in the future knowing they are dealing someone with the thought processes of a Chavez.

Is Sarah Palin Big Oil's pawn or the Hugo Chavez of Alaska?

Just the fact that we can even ask that question is yet another reason why the 2008 campaign for president of the United States is proving to be the most entertaining political freak show in memory. But the question is far from rhetorical. Palin's eagerness to promote drilling in ANWR and offshore has led Obama supporters to the easy conclusion that she is in the tank for the energy industry. Yet a closer look at the facts on the ground in Alaska suggests that pigeonholing the governor in such a small coop misreads what's really going on.

One of the biggest ongoing energy stories in Alaska is the nearly 30-year-long struggle to get a new mega-pipeline built that will ensure the state continues to live large off of its immense natural gas reserves for decades to come. At the moment, two contenders are vying for the right to build such a pipeline. On one side, BP and ConocoPhillips, two energy companies that, along with Exxon, own potentially lucrative leases to pump natural gas in Alaska. The other proposal belongs to TransCanada, a Calgary-based pipeline builder.

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/09/02/sarah_palin_hugo_chavez/

"According to this Bloomberg article by Joe Carroll and Sonja Franklin, Sarah Palin is "Succeeding where Venezuela President Hugo Chavez has failed"

Before this article came out I avoided comparing Palin and Chavez. The two leaders are both popular and use the multinational oil and gas firms as punching bags to whip up support among their followers.

Bloomberg correctly points out the Palin takes a tough stance with the North Slope producers, but the article is short on proof of success.

Bloomberg points out that Palin has increased taxes on oil and gas firms but does not mention the subsequent multi billion dollar reduction in capital expenditure.

The loss of investment in Alaska's oil patch equals lost jobs today and lost revenue in the future. That business model is alive and well in Chavez's Venezuela."

http://alaska-gas-pipeline.blogspot.com/2008/03/bloomberg-compares-palin-with-hugo.html

Seneca
 
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Check out what she said about the duties of the VP:

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”

PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

Look at the video in this link:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/palin-vp-senate/

No wonder that leading conservatives have called her a "national disgrace" and a "cancer on the Republican Party."

Seneca
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This could be defined as constitutionally ignorant.:D Comical!
 
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The great question is whether Yannis will EVER have an original thought of his own?

MY bet is no.
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That is too good!
 
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