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The Scary Thing About "Joe the Plumber"
- Thread starter Brandonf
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Quote from Brandonf:
Well if it was a setup someone knew how to read King Obama's fucking mind, because he asked to stop in a neighborhood, which was not on the agenda, and get out and meet people.
Or Joe had an invention known as "a car."
It just so happened to be the neighborhood that Sam lives in.
I find that very difficult to believe, that "Joe" (not his real name) who just happens to be the son of a large Republican donor, and Brother-in-law to Charles Keating, just happened to live in the neighborhood that Obama stopped in in Toledo. Would you have a citation for that information?
Quote from bigdavediode:
Or Joe had an invention known as "a car."
I find that very difficult to believe, that "Joe" (not his real name) who just happens to be the son of a large Republican donor, and Brother-in-law to Charles Keating, just happened to live in the neighborhood that Obama stopped in in Toledo. Would you have a citation for that information?
I really don't feel like searching all over the internet like a mad man to satisfy you that this is not a conspiracy, it won't work anyway. You can read any of the original stories though and they go like this. "Obama was in Toledo when he told his people to stop, that he wanted to go house to house and meet the folks. As he was doing so, in a neighborhood he was not set to visit, he came across Sam (aka Joe) who asked a question that has set the work into a snit. Because he dared ask the King a question that the King gave a terrible reply too, the media and the Kings machine is now trying to destroy Sam." Something like that.
Even if he was a plant..so what? Does that change the answer that Obama gave? Hardly. Obama wants to call everything a distraction from the important issue, well if I do say so myself this obsession you guys have with the messenger (Joe), not the Kings answer is certainly a distraction from the issue at hand.
Quote from bigdavediode:
Or Joe had an invention known as "a car."
I find that very difficult to believe, that "Joe" (not his real name) who just happens to be the son of a large Republican donor, and Brother-in-law to Charles Keating, just happened to live in the neighborhood that Obama stopped in in Toledo. Would you have a citation for that information?
Agree............... The way McCain incorporated the story into his stomp rallies makes you wonder if it wasnt all planned out ahead of time. Either way.... when CNN and MSNBC decide to carry this.... McCain will be toast ... ...well.... toastier than he is now.
McCain, Palin, and "Joe the plumber" , --- after this story hits CNN ..............................................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWjTdDDX4gI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWjTdDDX4gI
Quote from Brandonf:
Last week King Barack happened to be in Samuel Wurzelbachers neighborhood in Toledo, Ohio. He decided to get out and mingle with the riff raff. I'm sure he figured it would be pretty uneventful, but it turns out it wasn't. Sam asked a hard question and King Barack gave a terrible answer to it. Since the moment that Mr Wurzelbacher dared to challenge the Dear Leader he has been ripped apart without mercy by the media. We have found out that he's "not a real plumber" (in fact he is, its perfectly legal to practice a trade in the townships outside of city limits under another person's license, and anyone who thinks otherwise obviously has no experience in construction), he has a traffic ticket he did not pay, he's unlikely to make 250K and he's not payed his taxes. Wow! But, what does this have to do with the original question Sam asked Obama? It has exactly nothing to do with that question, it has everything to do with scaring and silencing people into not asking hard question of our elected officials. That should send a chill down all of our spines.
Boo hoo hoo what do you have against working, hard working Americans? Typical of liberals...Joe the plumber is a good American.
Quote from Brandonf:
I really don't feel like searching all over the internet like a mad man to satisfy you that this is not a conspiracy, it won't work anyway.
Well normally I don't buy into conspiracy theories, but when there's a guy named "Joe" whose name isn't Joe, who's a "plumber" who's not licenced to be a plumber in Toledo (or even apprentice, or is even a member of the plumbers' union), whose income is supposed to be $40,000 who asks a fake question about trying to buy a plumbing business that nets $250,000 (when it doesn't), who is worried about taxes but hasn't paid his taxes, who just happens to have a father who's a large Republican donor, it does seem slightly suspicious. Come to think of it, it seems like his story of this plant fell apart.
You can read any of the original stories though and they go like this. "Obama was in Toledo when he told his people to stop, that he wanted to go house to house and meet the folks. As he was doing so, in a neighborhood he was not set to visit, he came across Sam (aka Joe) who asked a question that has set the work into a snit. Because he dared ask the King a question that the King gave a terrible reply too, the media and the Kings machine is now trying to destroy Sam." Something like that.
"Came across" -- sure. Just coincidentally lived in the neighborhood is what the post said, and I'd like to see some support for that.
Even if he was a plant..so what?
So it reveals that Republicans will lie, plant and cheat. If the question had merit the Republicans would have dishonestly planted a real plumber, but unfortunately that question doesn't apply to actual plumbers, only Republican fantasy plumbers.
I am wondering if any of you people actually watched the video, or if you just parrot what Hannity, Rush, and Fox tells you.
Obama answered the question, and did so thoroughly. In the end, his message was if you don't want to vote for me I respect that.
If you guys could look at stuff objectively and quit being brainwashed and led around by the above mentioned pundits, life would be a lot better for all of us. Instead you just wallow in hate and greed and "me, me, me...mine, mine, mine". Go buy an island and live on it so we can all carry on with our lives.
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Obama answered the question, and did so thoroughly. In the end, his message was if you don't want to vote for me I respect that.
If you guys could look at stuff objectively and quit being brainwashed and led around by the above mentioned pundits, life would be a lot better for all of us. Instead you just wallow in hate and greed and "me, me, me...mine, mine, mine". Go buy an island and live on it so we can all carry on with our lives.
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Quote from stock_trad3r:
Boo hoo hoo what do you have against working, hard working Americans? Typical of liberals...Joe the plumber is a good American.
Therefore, "good American"=
tax cheat
scofflaw
divorced
racist
Well, at least we know what real Republicans aspire to.
Thanks for the input, I always felt that to be the case, but now you made it official.
Care to comment on what "real America" is and in a like vain, "real Virginia"
Seneca