If Obama wins all the income redistributors will get what they deserve 
The Scary Thing About "Joe the Plumber"
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I consider myself conservative, But would never vote for the Republican party because it transformed into the "white men who hate Blacks" party. It betrayed every single tenet of conservatism a la William Buckley (small government, balanced budgets, realpolitik foreign policy ).
Obama is first choice now, and then Barr. The GOP can kiss my ass. joe the plumber is a very godd representative of the typical GOP voter now.
Uneducated.
White
Poor
Racist
Fucked up family life
Drunkard
Obama is first choice now, and then Barr. The GOP can kiss my ass. joe the plumber is a very godd representative of the typical GOP voter now.
Uneducated.
White
Poor
Racist
Fucked up family life
Drunkard
The irony of the deal is that Joe, not a plumber is better off under Obama's tax plans at either his current 40K job or if he buys the plumbing biz and makes 250K.
In the latter case, the higher taxes Joe would pay under the horrible, socialist 39% braCKET that Obama wants instead of the conservative, job forming, real American 36% bracket McCain wants is more than offset by the 50% deduction of medical insurance premiums Joe would be paying as a small businessman.
Cool , aint it; he only loses if the guy he supports wins.
Seneca
In the latter case, the higher taxes Joe would pay under the horrible, socialist 39% braCKET that Obama wants instead of the conservative, job forming, real American 36% bracket McCain wants is more than offset by the 50% deduction of medical insurance premiums Joe would be paying as a small businessman.
Cool , aint it; he only loses if the guy he supports wins.
Seneca
you keep on rambling on about "investment class this", " investment class that".
As if you know anything about economics. Or money.
Based on your posts, it's a wonder you can even put together a coherent post.
The "investment" class you worry about, DO NOT "invest" in businesses.
99% of the wealthy who "invest" get their returns from "parasitic returns".
This is a term I coined to explain gains created from investing in monetary vehicles. It's money, chasing money. Not someone opening a shoe factory and employing 10 people.
All their money is "managed money" to chase "parasitic returns".
The gains generated from this type of return has ZERO real productivity impact on the real economy. i.e. a economy that CREATES jobs. Not outsourcing jobs to other nations to create a larger bottom line profit.
In any vibrant economy, as in nature, certain amount of parasitic activity is conducive to maintaining a healthy environment.
At the present time, "Parasitic Investing" is off the charts. As evidenced by the recent Socialist bailouts of Banking entities.
Top 20 of Forbes 400
William Gates III
Warren Buffett
Lawrence Ellison
Jim Walton
S Robson Walton
Alice Walton
Christy Walton & Family
Michael Bloomberg
Charles Koch
David Koch
Michael Dell
Paul Allen
Sergey Brin
Larry Page
Sheldon Adelson
Steven Ballmer
Abigail Johnson
Jack Taylor & Family
Anne Cox Chambers
Donald Bren
Maybe at one time in your life you worked for them or have used one of their products.
www.forbes.com/lists/2008/54/400list08_The-400-Richest-Americans_Rank.html
Buffet and Gates both support Obama.
Kind of like in Legally blonde where Elle Woods was able to practice law as a STUDENT under the auspices of a licensed attorney. Of course this is the real world and if I got a sump pump problem I would prefer to deal with someone who is actually a licensed plumber, and NOT just a handyman that knows how to use a wrench!
But I do not think this is or would be such an issue if the "Do As I Say, Not A I Do" party had not stooped to bringing up William (the Patriot) Ayers from the late '60s and early 70s as a so-called pal of Obama's when in fact he has nothing to do with his current campaign! I didn't hear Obama or anyone else bring up Keating or Lidddy et.al. until the right-wing hypos brought up this education professor's name!
I am sure Samuel is a fairly nice guy with a big mouth. Most likely he hates blacks just by looking at the cat!
Stick to the fucking topic.
You were discussing "INVESTMENT CLASS", the same idiots behind the CDO mess. "Parasites using money to make money. Without providing any underlying value.
You were NOT " discussing the Entrepreneurial Class". None of whom worry about taxes.
They're smart enough to know taxes can be gamed.
Hence warren buffets comment he pays less in taxes than his secretary.
Ask any single ONE of these folks if they went into business thinking about taxes?
Nope.
Except of course for "Joe the plumber" types.
They, who are unlikely, in their lifetimes, to generate any meaningful business, are worried about a THREE PERCENT ( for fucks sake 3 god damn percent!! ) increase between McCains plan and Obama's plan.
so your types will not open a business for a THREE FUCKING PERCENT increase ABOVE 250K NET?!!
Yeah, who you kidding. With mental issues like yours it's a wonder you manage to walk straight.
Let alone plan a business.
You were discussing "INVESTMENT CLASS", the same idiots behind the CDO mess. "Parasites using money to make money. Without providing any underlying value.
You were NOT " discussing the Entrepreneurial Class". None of whom worry about taxes.
They're smart enough to know taxes can be gamed.
Hence warren buffets comment he pays less in taxes than his secretary.
Ask any single ONE of these folks if they went into business thinking about taxes?
Nope.
Except of course for "Joe the plumber" types.
They, who are unlikely, in their lifetimes, to generate any meaningful business, are worried about a THREE PERCENT ( for fucks sake 3 god damn percent!! ) increase between McCains plan and Obama's plan.
so your types will not open a business for a THREE FUCKING PERCENT increase ABOVE 250K NET?!!
Yeah, who you kidding. With mental issues like yours it's a wonder you manage to walk straight.
Let alone plan a business.