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The Rise And Fall Of America
- Thread starter triggertrader
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Its clear that the peak of american dominance was the 1950s. JFK/LBJ institued a number of insane policies that irrevocably destroyed the stable social order that had existed and allowed america to reign supreme in world matters.
It'd be not impossible, and most likely, that in the foreseeable future the North Korea and South Korea would be unified and merged, just like the Germany by unification of two old states, naturally.
China and Taiwan states would highly probably do the same thing - unification as one country, naturally again!
The countries consisting of (Unified) China, Russia and (Unified) Korea would possibly form a East Block, mainly due to their similar historical political systems - becoming a socialism-based mixed economy individually (with a lot of free market contents).
Perhaps only a matter of when? lol
* Koreas to form unified team and march together in Olympics
The Sydney Morning Herald - 6 hours ago
The two Koreas will compete as a unified team in the Olympics for the first time,
though they have joined forces at other international sports events before. North
Korea will send a delegation of more than 400, including 230 cheerleaders, 140
artists and 30 Taekwondo players for a demonstration, a joint ...
* North and South Korea to form unified Olympics ice hockey team
9news.com.au - 14 hours ago
* The two Koreas will march together at Olympics, compete as unified hockey team
Financial Review - 14 hours ago
What you are describing is not capitalism. That's cronyism or corporate fascism. True capitalism happened and was most prosperous during the post civil war era up until around the 1920s. During this time more humans around the world lifted their standard of living exponentially than any other time and human history and experience the biggest economic expansion in human history. These "underpaid workers" you described are underpaid due to loss of value of the currency as a result of printing money and interests rates near zero. Many businesses creating high skilled jobs have been taxed and regulated out of existence. As a result of all this government expansion and intervention, the jobs being created today are crappy low paying jobs.Crapitalism is no better for the average Joe. The robber barons are alive and living in luxury on the backs of under paid workers.
Here in the UK the Union bosses were found to be living for free in upmarket mansions. The Tories ( this word comes down from history meaning thieves ) are no different.
I see in the home of capitalism ( the US ) both parties are dominated by rich people, even dynisties like the Bushes, Clintons., Kennedys etc.
The human race sucks........................
There is no more capitalism. Capitalism died a slow death following the progressive era.
“For the first time, American strategy recognizes that economic security is national security,” Trump said in his speech. "
Cold war?
* America First (policy) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_(policy) - Cached - Similar
Trump used the slogan, who has said that "'America First' will be the major and overriding theme" of his administration. In a Politico/Morning Consult poll released on January 25, 2017, 65% of Americans responded positively to President Trump's "America First" inaugural message, with 39% ...
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* Trump to unveil 'America First' strategy | Fox News
www.foxnews.com/politics/.../trump-to-unveil-america-first-strategy.html
18 Dec 2017 ... President Trump set to unveil national security strategy. ... President Trump is set to unveil a new national security strategy on Monday, emphasizing national sovereignty over alliances and economic security – and reversing Obama-era warnings of climate change. Trump will go further ...
* Trump's 'America First' Strategy Is Old Hat - POLITICO Magazine
https://www.politico.com/.../trump-national-security-strategy-america-first-216120 - Cached
19 Dec 2017 ... “For the first time, American strategy recognizes that economic security is national security,” Trump said in his speech. " Economic vitality, growth and prosperity at home is absolutely necessary for American power and influence abroad. Any nation that trades away its prosperity for security will end up losing ...
* Trump's 'America First' policy has isolated U.S. from world leaders ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../analysis-trump-s-america-first-foreign-policy-isolates-u-s-n833046 - Cached
29 Dec 2017 ... Donald Trump's vision for U.S. foreign policy is crystal clear and summed up in two words: "America First."
Cold war?
* Why Didn't America Join the War Sooner? - Visit Pearl Harbor
https://visitpearlharbor.org/didnt-american-initially-join-war/ - Cached - Similar
19 Jan 2017 ... Before the United States joined World War II in response to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the great battle had been raging in Europe since 1939. While the ... Stark Contrast of Modern America ... Even if the United States had wanted to enter the war, its military force was simply not ready. Facing off ...
* Why didn't the U.S. want to join WW2? by Riley Zeafla on Prezi
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13 Mar 2015 ... Before the attack on Pearl Harbor 80% of Americans did not want to get involved in a war. This was because of the damage still prominent from WW1. The U.S. joined WW2 after the attack on Pearl Harbor because both the American public and government agreed that it was a deliberate attack and they ...
* In WWII, why didn't the U.S. join Britain and France earlier when ...
https://www.quora.com/In-WWII-why-d...y-declared-war-on-Germany-for-invading-Poland - Similar
17 Dec 2014 ... Military History of the United States of America · World History ... The US had no treaty obligations to enter the war as Britain and France did. The French army and the British .... I think it's useful to look at years because in history, it seems like a great deal of time between WWI and WWII because it's all 'old.' There was only 20 ...
7 Answers - Why did the US stay out of WWII for as long as it did? 6 Nov 2015
Why did the US get involved in WW2? 8 Aug 2015
Oh no, here we go again. The world is full of people with the intellectual and emotional maturity of a 7th grader who think they're actually making a point by throwing random insults around. Grow up my friend, if you have a specific point to make that you can back up with at least a single cogent thought then do so. Otherwise the "You're a stupid stupid dumb dumb" level of discourse which seems to be all you're capable of engaging in is simply juvenile to the adults in the room.Oh no here we go again...the world is full of commies..socialists (who thinks the world owes them something)..snowflakes...and progressives (aka regresives) ROFLMAO
"It the economy" ....remember saying from a few years back? You may be too juvenile to remember! Left leaning people think they are so smart and all they do is ...wreck practically everything they touch and cannot stand any criticism..much like a child throwing a temper tantrum....Oh no, here we go again. The world is full of people with the intellectual and emotional maturity of a 7th grader who think they're actually making a point by throwing random insults around. Grow up my friend, if you have a specific point to make that you can back up with at least a single cogent thought then do so. Otherwise the "You're a stupid stupid dumb dumb" level of discourse which seems to be all you're capable of engaging in is simply juvenile to the adults in the room.
Um ..how is the economy NOW, compared to prev 8 years? Don't need any studies to see it is better. LOTS better. Malls filling back up...closed strip malls opening up..bigger paychecks...better employee morale...construction up...jobs being added....etc..etc..etc
But leftist can't stand that can they? Lol.. ROFLMAO
“For the first time, American strategy recognizes that economic security is national security,” Trump said in his speech. "
Cold war?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_curve
December 2017:
* Trump Plan Sees National Security As a Zero-Sum Game - NYMag
nymag.com/.../trump-plan-sees-national-security-as-a-zero-sum-game.html - Cached
19 Dec 2017 ... It also listed some grandiose firsts that Trump had no business claiming credit for, like “for the first time, American strategy recognizes that economic security is national security,” and “for the first time ever, American strategy now includes a serious plan to defend our homeland.” Again, this makes sense if ...
* Trump's 'America First' Strategy Is Old Hat - POLITICO Magazine
https://www.politico.com/.../trump-national-security-strategy-america-first-216120 - Cached
19 Dec 2017 ... What is perhaps more striking is the degree to which this administration explicitly links domestic economic health with global interests and security. “For the first time, American strategy recognizes that economic security is national security,” Trump said in his speech. “Economic vitality, growth and prosperity ...
* Remarks by President Trump on the Administration's National ...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/.../remarks-president-trump-administrations-national-security-strategy/ - Cached
18 Dec 2017 ... The second pillar of our strategy is to promote American prosperity. For the first time, American strategy recognizes that economic security is national security. Economic vitality, growth, and prosperity at home is absolutely necessary for American power and influence abroad. Any nation that trades away its ...
* 6 whoppers from Trump's speech (Opinion) - CNN - CNN.com
edition.cnn.com/2017/12/19/...national-security.../index.html - Cached
19 Dec 2017 ... CNN national security analyst John Kirby is a retired rear admiral in the US Navy who was a spokesman for both the State and Defense departments in the Obama administration. The views .... "For the first time, American strategy recognizes that economic security is national security." Nope. Not even close.
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You're actually starting to form the beginning of a thought, so let's examine that thought. Your nascent concept seems to be, "if the economy improves then the party in power is doing something right". The first budget that the Obama administration was responsible for was the fiscal year 2010 budget which started Oct 1st, 2009. The economy was unquestionably better by the end of the last budget Obama was responsible for, the fiscal year 2017 budget which ended Sep 30th, 2017 eight years later. And the economy was unquestionably better by any metric you care to use on Sep 30th, 2016 than it was on Oct 1st, 2008. And on Sep 30th, 2015 than Oct 1st, 2007. And so on. By pretty much any measure you care to use, the economy was in horrible shape when Obama came into office and significantly better shape when he left, those are simply facts, sorry if I "think I'm so smart" by foisting those on you. So by your metric, Obama and those "left leaning people" were doing something right. If you want to see "wrecking pretty much everything you touch" and use your simplistic view of the world take a look at any measure of the economy over the Bush Presidency, or talk to one of the tens of thousands of maimed servicemen and women who are still living with the injuries they sustained because of that administration. From your demeanor and ignorance I'm assuming you were still in school during the 2008 time period, but feel free to ask any adult who was of working age at that time how construction jobs, strip malls, employee morale, jobs being added... were going then."It the economy" ....remember saying from a few years back? You may be too juvenile to remember! Left leaning people think they are so smart and all they do is ...wreck practically everything they touch and cannot stand any criticism..much like a child throwing a temper tantrum....
Um ..how is the economy NOW, compared to prev 8 years? Don't need any studies to see it is better. LOTS better. Malls filling back up...closed strip malls opening up..bigger paychecks...better employee morale...construction up...jobs being added....etc..etc..etc
But leftist can't stand that can they? Lol.. ROFLMAO
Of course the truth is that the world is a far more complex place than you seem to grasp, and Bush and conservatives weren't entirely at fault for the financial meltdown and Obama isn't entirely at credit for the significant positive turnaround in the economy, and Trump certainly isn't to be credited at all for what the economy did under a budget passed under Obama, but if we need to stay simple for you we'll use your metrics and even by those your position is completely unsupported.
The economy is also doing well today. Contrary to your entirely false assertion, I and pretty much every other American regardless of political leanings, am happy about that. I hope it remains doing well for the entire 4 years of the Trump administration, as do the vast majority of the rest of the country regardless of political affiliation. I stand criticism just fine, if you can manage to do something beyond calling me names I'll be happy to address your argument in detail, as I just did. If you can show where I've ever thrown a temper tantrum I'll be happy to apologize, however I'm not holding my breath for you to actually back up your accusations with any actual facts, being as how those are for "left leaning people who think they are so smart and all". You, on the other hand, may be suffering from Dunning Kruger syndrome to the point that you don't see it, but when you put up a post that consists entirely of childish name calling, then accuse the person who's done nothing but respond with calm rational discussion "childish", well let's just say you'll receive the respect you deserve. And by the way, most adults don't feel the need to "roll on the floor laughing their ass off" or "laugh out loud" after each post they make.
ROFLMAO Typical Regressive response. Aprox 10 trillion debt when he came in aprox 20 trillion when he left. Businesses closing. Housing down..construction down..cd's down..everything down. Anybody with common sense can tell it and feel it.
Don't need any leftist numbers to decipher it. Fake facts..Fake news!
Ok so now we pull out the mature ..reasonable...button to put on...
Dunning kruger?? Lol looks who is calling someone else incompetent....typical regressive regression.
Things are mucho better and Mr T catches hell everyday..
ROFLMAO
Socialists NEVER get it!
Sorry just ...funny. Oh well you got you viewpoint.... i got mine. You won't convince me and I won't convince you. So probally best to just leave it there.
Don't need any leftist numbers to decipher it. Fake facts..Fake news!
Ok so now we pull out the mature ..reasonable...button to put on...
Dunning kruger?? Lol looks who is calling someone else incompetent....typical regressive regression.
Things are mucho better and Mr T catches hell everyday..
ROFLMAO
Socialists NEVER get it!
Sorry just ...funny. Oh well you got you viewpoint.... i got mine. You won't convince me and I won't convince you. So probally best to just leave it there.