The rich are waging class warfare on the poor

[failed_trad3r]

Quote from bone:

And you cannot structure a sound arguement for shit.

We are all still waiting for you to produce an example where the rich are by design and intent stealing from the poor.

As you cannot disprove it, you claim the opposite.

 

[bone]

Quote from failed_trad3r:

As you cannot disprove it, you claim the opposite.

Ummm... you started the fucking thread with your unfounded proclamation as the title. So prove it.

 

[luisHK]

Quote from dumb_mother:


the great thing about america though- is that it is possible to become one of those top 1%. several of the richest people in the world didn't come from wealth cradle to grave, but got there themselves. that is what the american dream really is. who cares what the gap between rich and poor is when you can be born into poverty and die shitting on a golden toilet. there aren't many places in the world with that kind of economic freedom, and it is just plain impossible to do in communist or socialist countries where becoming wealthy is impossible because they fear the gap.

I don't particulary disagree with all you write, but, besides that stats show it's harder in the US than in Europe to climb the socio economic ladder, in a (pseudo)socialist country like China it is very much possible to go from dirt poor to dirt rich, actually many of chinese richest people come from poor background - which is helped by the fact that a huge majority of 50y o + chinese come from a dirt poor background.

 

[MarketMasher]

The title of the thread could easily be asked another way.....

If YOU had established a competitive advantage, would YOU do anything you could to further it?

Now, "anything" could also include getting laws passed that favored you over competition, or "buying" a politician or few if they appeared to be for sale....

The ones earliest-in would have the best advantage of course, and with enough time could entrench their positions.

Speaking of which - like the George Carlin bit - who does own America? That is, who own the most valuable land, either directly or indirectly (good land, not swamp land in Louisiana...)?

 

[DemZad]

Interesting stuff. The world needs ditch diggers, as the saying goes...but at what point does creating and maintaining a competitive advantage become strangling those the advantage depends on? I think there needs to be a balance...but where to strike that balance...that is the question.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from failed_trad3r:
You seem to make sense, then you don't.

Well then it seems I'm one up on you because you almost never make sense.

You are obsessed with MY failure..

Obsessed is too strong.

Quote from bone:
We are all still waiting for you to produce an example where the rich are by design and intent stealing from the poor.

Personally I never met a poor person who had anything worth stealing. I may be wrong but I believe that's why they're called "poor".

 

[failed_trad3r]

http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2011/08/22/republican_tax_increase/index.html

GOP: No tax hikes -- except for the poor

Here you see the GOP waging class warfare on the poor.:eek:

 

[bone]

Quote from failed_trad3r:

[BGOP: No tax hikes -- except for the poor

Here you see the GOP waging class warfare on the poor.[/B]

It took you 29 days to come up with that ?

 

[bone]

Quote from failed_trad3r:

GOP: No tax hikes -- except for the poor

Here you see the GOP waging class warfare on the poor.:eek:

Bullshit on you, Salon, NPR, and the AP:

"Many NPR affiliates repeated the same line in its news bulletins yesterday, telling listeners that many of the same Republicans who wouldn’t let the Bush tax cuts expire are now eager to start the payroll tax again. They’ll tax the poor, but not the rich.

The problem? Neither the AP nor NPR presented a single quote from a Republican who explicitly advocates the return of the payroll tax. All the quotes from Republicans in the original AP story discuss the policy implications of the payroll tax, but do not actually express a position on whether it should stay suspended.

The AP story is nothing more than an attempt to assist President Barack Obama as he tries to use a payroll tax holiday to boost his flagging popularity, and campaign against House Republicans in his bid for re-election.

The “smoking gun”? The second-to-last paragraph in the AP story tells us:

Many Democrats also are ambivalent about Obama’s proposed tax cut extension. They are more focused on protecting social programs from deep spending cuts. Some worry that a multiyear reduction in the tax designated for Social Security could undermine that program’s health and stature.

That’s 945 words into a 1,037-word article. A deliberate political hit under the false cover of objectivity."

 

[hippie]

Quote from tickmagnet:

And how the rich keep poor quiet ? sell them hope or American dream.

And blame the poor for not making it even if a poor person is working 2 jobs that do not pay. An illness or minor accident leads to homeless. I have seen this happened esp since 2008. People working on low wages have no social net unless they start making babies. I saw a homeless woman very pregnant. She said that the baby would help her get the help she needed, that was her only way out of homelessness in 2009.