The Republican National Convention starts with a bang

[Frederick Foresight]

If you want to talk about systemic corrosion, as you put it, i would cooncede the fact that there are areas of the legal system where black people get the shaft, Drug laws, sentencing, etc.....

But thats not the rhetoric coming from black lives matter, or the liberal media, they are selling a narrative where innocent blacks are being gunned down in the streets by hill billy cops for no reason, this narrative has shown to be completely false, even a black harvard economist came to the conclusion that cops are less likely to shoot black people than white people.

This rhetoric has caused alot of nut jobs to take this on as their own personal war, and we are seeing the consequences, 11 cops dead in just two weeks.

Tell me, do you think that the fairly widespread existence white supremacists in police departments across the country suddenly went inert? You don't think they make their presence known in one way or another to those they consider inferior to them?

From the link originally posted in this forum regarding the Harvard study:

" While black people are more likely than white people to be touched, handcuffed, thrown against a wall, pushed to the ground, and have weapons pointed at them by the police..."

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index...s-no-racial-bias-wrt-police-shootings.301142/

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-finds-no-racial-bias-in-police-shootings-2016-7

So if you cannot understand the frustration and outrage felt by people who are singled out for no reason other than what they look like, then you're the one who's inert.

I don't condone any violence against innocent people. I am upset by the social physics of action/reaction that perpetuates a bad situation. But to throw your hands up in the air and ask wtf is either disingenuous or vacuous. And in any event, the senseless killings you refer to were not attributed to the movement but to crazed lone gunmen. Please keep your straw to yourself.

 

[Ricter]

Melania Trump plagiarizes Michelle Obama's speech of eight years ago:

http://globalnews.ca/news/2833499/m...osely-resembled-michelle-obamas-2008-address/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Lady-s-2008-Democratic-Convention-speech.html

Melania's speech writer:

Reince people-just-don't-care Priebus said he'd probably fire Melania's speechwriter. Melania said she wrote the speech with little help. Therefore Priebus would probably fire Melania.
: )

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Reince people-just-don't-care Priebus said he'd probably fire Melania's speechwriter. Melania said she wrote the speech with little help. Therefore Priebus would probably fire Melania.
: )

Isn't she getting a bit too old for The Donald anyway?

 

[Max E.]

Here is the point, I condede basically everything you are saying, but the narrative that blacks in america are being gunned down systematically by cops is also false, would you not concede that?

Do you not think that it escalates the chance of a black person being shot by a cop if someone who is highly respected says some bullshit like "The biggest thing i have to warn my son about is being killed by cops" You dont think that kind of bullshit plants a seed in the heads of young black people?

Why is it that you never see a video of someoen just respecting the cops demands, handing over their license and registration, then getting blown away?

The answer is because it doesnt happen.

In every single one of these cases that are questionable its because someone struggled with a cop, and didnt comply, so do you not think that rhetoric like the bullshit that black lives matter is selling, where they paint a narrative of young black males being systematically blown away by police, do you not think that fuels the resistance from young black males that leads to more deaths in these instances?

How could you consider BLM anything less than Unproductive, they have caused a far bigger issue than it ever was, we are far worse off since the rise of blm than we were before it./

Tell me, do you think that the fairly widespread existence white supremacists in police departments across the country suddenly went inert? You don't think they make their presence known in one way or another to those they consider inferior to them?

From the link originally posted in this forum regarding the Harvard study:

" While black people are more likely than white people to be touched, handcuffed, thrown against a wall, pushed to the ground, and have weapons pointed at them by the police..."

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index...s-no-racial-bias-wrt-police-shootings.301142/

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-finds-no-racial-bias-in-police-shootings-2016-7

So if you cannot understand the frustration and outrage felt by people who are singled out for no reason other than what they look like, then you're the one who's inert.

I don't condone any violence against innocent people. I am upset by the social physics of action/reaction that perpetuates a bad situation. But to throw your hands up in the air and ask wtf is either disingenuous or vacuous. And in any event, the senseless killings you refer to were not attributed to the movement but to crazed lone gunmen. Please keep your straw to yourself.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Like i said earlier, all these political speeches are rip offs of each other in some form

Maybe so. But the person lifting portions from someone else's speech usually holds that other person in high regard. The beauty part here is that the Trumps regard the Obamas with contempt, but nevertheless saw fit to copy from them. That's what makes it art.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Here is the point, I condede basically everything you are saying, but the narrative that blacks in america are being gunned down systematically by cops is also false, would you not concede that?

I concede that the study you referred to concludes otherwise, and for all I know it may well be a valid assessment. Anecdotally, however, the evidence looks different.

And apart from the "being gunned down" part, the evidence is clear that African Americans are regularly being discriminated against by police in the aggregate. So it looks like the klukkers in the force aren't inert after all.

 

[Max E.]

I concede that the study you referred to concludes otherwise, and for all I know it may well be a valid assessment. Anecdotally, however, the evidence looks different.

Ok well heres one that anyone with a brain should concede regardless of political opinion, given the number of police stops in america, is it logical to fear for your life at the hands of the police when less than 200 blacks are shot by cops every year and a miniscule number on that is even questionable?

I mean from a pure numbers perspective would you not concede that it is irrational for black people to fear for their lives from cops? And thus it is irrational for someone to preach to young black people that they should fear dying from cops?

I:t would be like people preaching to me about dying from being struck by lightning, those are the odds.

 

[Ricter]

Ok well heres one that anyone with a brain should concede regardless of political opinion, given the number of police stops in america, is it logical to fear for your life at the hands of the police when less than 200 blacks are shot by cops every year and a miniscule number on that is even questionable?

I mean from a pure numbers perspective would you not concede that it is irrational for black people to fear for their lives from cops? And thus it is irrational for someone to preach to young black people that they should fear dying from cops?

I:t would be like people preaching to me about dying from being struck by lightning, those are the odds.

Absolutely true. Similarly, being killed by an illegal immigrant.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

I mean from a pure numbers perspective would you not concede that it is irrational for black people to fear for their lives from cops?

Here's my honest answer: If I were black and living in America, I would be more concerned than if I were white and living in America.

 

[Max E.]

Absolutely true. Similarly, being killed by an illegal immigrant.

Not going to hear an argument from me over that, while i agree with the policy that we shouldnt take people from country's we cant vet, i am very cognisant of the fact that the odds i get hit by a car while crossing the street are far greater than the odds i die at the hands of a terrorist. Nice to see we can find common ground.