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Bush just looks weak. The guy is a pampered trust fund career politician with a twisted baby face. He almost looks like be may be missing a few chromosomes. Weak is not good as president
 
But didn't you previously praise Trump, who's all swagger and no principles?
Rand Paul is my first choice. Far and away. I don't trust trump. I like what he says but where does he stand on the constitution, tpp, 2nd amendment, corporate control of congress, NSA spying etc.

That said trump Cruz and rand Paul are the only candidates that offer a glimmer of hope imo
 
You can't fire me, I quit
Trump campaign says it fired top adviser, who begs to differ
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/politics/donald-trump-campaign-roger-stone/index.html

Donald Trump's campaign said Saturday it has fired top political adviser Roger Stone -- who promptly denied being let go and insisted he had quit.

Stone's disassociation from the Trump operation Saturday highlights the campaign's seeming lack of veteran political advisers, even as the 2016 season is ramping up in earnest. And the dispute opens a window into two different factions of the campaign: one side that wants to maintain Trump's high visibility by capitalizing on his public feuds and bombastic rhetoric, and another that wants to pull the candidate toward more disciplined political strategy.


(More at above url)
 
Bush just looks weak. The guy is a pampered trust fund career politician with a twisted baby face. He almost looks like be may be missing a few chromosomes. Weak is not good as president

I have sensed that as well. He has a very soft, pampered look. His brother W at least was a manly man.
 
Please note that the source of the data is supposedly the CDC, but the source of this bogus chart is NOT given!!!

For those who want the real numbers on deaths from abortion, go here:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6015a1.htm?s_cid=ss6015a1_w

The actual data given by the CDC in their Reports is summarized in:

TABLE 25. Number of deaths and case-fatality rates for abortion-related deaths reported to CDC, by type of abortion — United States, 1972–2006, on Pg 38 of the CDC MMWR Report, Vol 60(1) Feb. 25,2011.

The total deaths from abortion, legal and illegal, [all races] reported by the CDC for the period 1972-2006 was 407, not 13 Million! as reported for blacks alone in the posted chart. One can't be sure, but probably the chart number of deaths from abortion is including all abortions, since there are lunatics that believe even a fertilized egg is a human being. (One of these lunatics wants to be President of the United States. He has no trouble with the military going around killing millions, encourages wild military spending and calls himself a "Christian", but he says aborting a fertilized egg is murder!!

Reporting all abortions as deaths, and trying to tie the number of those "deaths" to CDC data is reprehensible.

from pg 36 of the same CDC report cited above...


"Several factors have been suggested to explain the reason a
greater proportion of black women and adolescents obtained
an abortion after the initial weeks of pregnancy. Because
women with low incomes frequently need additional time
to raise the necessary funds and make arrangements for an
abortion), some of the delays among black women
might be related to their higher poverty rates. Delays
among adolescents might reflect the fact that they often take
longer to suspect and then confirm they are pregnant
and might take longer to arrange an abortion because of
parental involvement laws. In addition, certain pregnant
adolescents approaching age 18 years wait until they are old
enough to obtain an abortion without parental involvement
thereby delaying their procedure.

The annual number of deaths associated with known legal induced abortions during 1997–2006 was 57% lower, on aveage, than during 1972–1981. In 2006, six women [all races and ethnic groups] died from causes known to be associated with legal abortion, and none died as a result of known illegal abortions. "

The earlier an abortion, the less the chance of serious complications . I needn't point out the obvious, but I will anyway. Those who oppose abortion, by their opposition are actually contributing to the deaths of women (mostly young women). By limiting access, opposing approval of effective drugs such as mifepristone, and throwing up all manner of hurdles, these misguided "pro-life" lunatics, who think a fertilized egg is a human being, are responsible for abortions being performed later in the gestation period, when earlier is much better. Even worse, they are contributing to the problem of unwanted babies being born. What is wrong with these, mostly male, lunatics, don't they have any compassion or respect for Women?


There is a death in every abortion. I support unborn women in most every case.
 
I have sensed that as well. He has a very soft, pampered look. His brother W at least was a manly man.

Yes, agree. I was a real politico back in college. I had the chance to shake GWB's hand at an event. The guy was extremely powerful -- i never felt anything quite like the vibe i got from him. It was pure power--- maybe it was just in my head but it really felt real.
 
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