The reason why Christianity seems so unrealistic and naive

Quote from killthesunshine:

your belief in smthg MUCH MUCH greater above & beyond your admitted understanding is the pinnacle of VANITY, ARROGANCE and complete IDIOCY.

Sounds like you are advocating inside-the-box type thinking, as if it wasn't itself arrogant and idiodic. But whatever it is, inside the box type thinking is average...inside the box.
 
Quote from I am...:

Sounds like you are advocating inside-the-box type thinking, as if it wasn't itself arrogant and idiodic. But whatever it is, inside the box type thinking is average...inside the box.

it's more reliable to describe inside the box when your actually "inside the box" :D think outside the box but be sure you test your musings against the real world :D
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Limited and conditional proofs reach only limited and conditional truths...

You claim that there is nothing but the limited known through and to be tested by the senses...but your argument is fully circular in nature. Fully. You are using limited senses to make an argument for relying on limited senses to establish Truth...

that's all we have to work with :(
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

That may be all you have to work with...

ok. what are YOU using to gather your divine knowledge? faith? belief? those are notoriously poor information gathering "tools". you will be more wrong than right using just those if they even get you in the ballpark. besides, your imagination MUST operate in the LIMITED realm too just like everything else about humans including science and rationalism.
 
Sold his soul to the devil! :eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Michael_Pacher_004.jpg

Years later, fearful for his soul, Theophilus repented and prayed to the Virgin for forgiveness. After forty days of fasting, the Virgin appeared to him and verbally chastised him. Theophilus begged forgiveness and Mary promised to intercede with God. He then fasted a further thirty days, at which time Mary appeared to him again, and granted him Absolution. However, Satan was unwilling to relinquish his hold over Theophilus, and it was a further three days before Theophilus awoke to find the damning contract on his chest. He then took the contract to the legitimate bishop and confessed all that he had done. The bishop burned the document, and Theophilus expired, out of sheer joy to be free from the burden of his contract.


Thankfully he was able to null & void the contract before HE became null & void :D
 
Quote from killthesunshine:

ok. what are YOU using to gather your divine knowledge? faith? belief? those are notoriously poor information gathering "tools". you will be more wrong than right using just those if they even get you in the ballpark. besides, your imagination MUST operate in the LIMITED realm too just like everything else about humans including science and rationalism.

stu, I and some others speak with SCIENTIFIC certainty.

YOU speak with ABSOLUTE (DIVINE) certainty. Where you getting your inside info lol :D
 
Please quote where I suggested using the tools of faith to gather limited knowledge?

Imagination is only limited to imagination...which has no limits...

Or do tell what the limit of imagination is?

Quote from killthesunshine:

ok. what are YOU using to gather your divine knowledge? faith? belief? those are notoriously poor information gathering "tools". you will be more wrong than right using just those if they even get you in the ballpark. besides, your imagination MUST operate in the LIMITED realm too just like everything else about humans including science and rationalism.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Please quote where I suggested using the tools of faith to gather limited knowledge?

Imagination is only limited to imagination...which has no limits...

Or do tell what the limit of imagination is?

i'm ASKING where do you get your divine knowledge?

simple question that after 10,000+ posts in P&R alone under "777" alias you should have a quick decisive answer,

or have we overestimated you :D
 
Limited knowledge comes from a limited source...

Material knowledge comes from a material source...

Divine knowledge comes from a Divine source...

Quote from killthesunshine:

i'm ASKING where do you get your divine knowledge?

simple question that after 10,000+ posts in P&R alone under "777" alias you should have a quick decisive answer,

or have we overestimated you :D
 
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