The real purpose of global warming?

Quote from jeafl:

What evidence? My part of Florida had record low temperatures (low 60sF) in the early part of last June. Temperatures otherwise have been about normal so this summer may go into the record books as being cool. In 2003(?) the Eastern Seaboard had a summer so cool that beaches were not busy and my part of Florida didn’t even see 90 degrees on the Fourth of July. How does global warming explain that?

If I argue that we're in a bull market, someone would say, "How can we be in a bull market when all the stocks I hold are negative this year!" You get the idea.

Have you heard the story "Blind Men and the Elephant?"
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It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind

The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
“God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!”

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, “Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me ’tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!”

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a snake!”

The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
“What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain,” quoth he;
“ ‘Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!”

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: “E’en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!”

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a rope!”

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

Moral:

So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!
 
Quote from jeafl:

The only known source of heat on earth is the sun. Burning organic matter and thus releasing the solar heat that is stored therein does not add any more heat to the earth-sun system. Whether or not that released heat is able to return to outer space, from whence it came, is the issue here.

When I cook a scrambled egg, the heat eventually radiates back into space. But, between the time that I expose the heat to the environment of the pan, and the time that it radiates into space, the eggs get cooked...just as our biosphere is currently being cooked by human industrial activity.

Like I said. You hold true to your theory and if you're under 30 years old, you will very likely have an opportunity to witness its folly. This doesn't mean that the world will come to an end. It just means that there will be some pretty severe environmental consequences which will challenge human survival.

Anyway, I'm out. Enjoy your debate with Mr. Bond.
 
But no, I did not invest in nuclear power plants. Not under this political environment. Most of my money has been in oil stocks.

And you are here advocating nuclear power as the only viable alternative to oil? You must not be a very smart investor.
 
Have you heard the story "Blind Men and the Elephant?"

Yes. It is a very apt description of the fanatical global warming hysteria that is allowed to run rampant in the absence of legitimate science.
 
When I cook a scrambled egg, the heat eventually radiates back into space. But, between the time that I expose the heat to the environment of the pan, and the time that it radiates into space, the eggs get cooked...just as our biosphere is currently being cooked by human industrial activity.

You, the frying pan, the stove, the egg, earth and sun are all part of a closed system. Frying the egg does not alter the amount of energy/heat present. You are only facilitating the changing of energy from one form to another.

Whether or not any other of your activities is keeping the energy bottled up on earth remains to be scientifically proven.
 
Quote from jeafl:

And you are here advocating nuclear power as the only viable alternative to oil? You must not be a very smart investor.
Are you an investor at all? I may not be a very smart investor, but I've made enough money to satisfy myself.
 
Quote from jeafl:

Yes. It is a very apt description of the fanatical global warming hysteria that is allowed to run rampant in the absence of legitimate science.
From your posts it's easy to tell that you have no clue what science is. So don't pretend that you know better than 90% of the scientists.
 
Quote from jeafl:

You, the frying pan, the stove, the egg, earth and sun are all part of a closed system.

You get an F in a physics class. The solar system is an open system. It exchanges energy and material with the outside environment. The earth is an open system. The milky way galaxy is an open system. You'll have to go to the level of the entire universe before postulating that it might be a closed system. But even that is not necessarily true, because, as we all know, the universe exchanges energy and material with God.
 
Are the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere evenly distributed throughout the atmosphere? If there is any part of the atmosphere that lacks enough greenhouse gases to trap heat, wouldn’t heat from the earth find its way to this part of the atmosphere and thus be allowed to return to outer space? If there is a place on earth where the atmosphere above still allows heat to escape to outer space, wouldn’t the heat at that place on earth escape- thereby creating wind currents that would draw heat from elsewhere to that place where it too would escape through the atmosphere- which would negate the greenhouse effect?
 
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