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first the left changes the definition of conception and now, you are trying to imbue viable with new concepts.

viable means capable of living outside the uterus
it does not mean potential "life". it does not make a judgment as to life.


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viable only means "potential" life....

I also do not want any artificial assistance in breathing when my natural time to die comes. Again personal (and private) CHOICE
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first the left changes the definition of conception and now, you are trying to imbue viable with new concepts.

viable means capable of living outside the uterus
it does not mean potential "life". it does not make a judgment as to life.
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Viable | Define Viable at Dictionary.com
(of a fetus) having reached such a stage of development as to be capable of
living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus. 3. Botany. able to live and
grow.



NOTE "under NORMAL conditions....at 24 weeks I think not. Any rate this is an issue that is still very personal and the fact remains that WOmen resent the hell out of a bunch of old white guys being patronizing and making these choices for women. It wasn't Romney's "smirk" that lost the election its the threat of taking us back to 1954....no thank you. The vast majority of the US consistently votes for CHOICE. Personal, PRIVATE, reproductive rights are not negotiable.
 
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I am a supporter of capital punishment, but doesn't it strike anyone as ironic that the evangelicals love to birth 'em and kill 'em later?
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Especially ironic considering that one of the ten commandments is :"Thou shalt not kill."

I asked a Baptist once how they reconciled their views on capital punishment in light of the commandments.

the answer: "That commandment only refers to the taking of 'innocent life'.

Leaving aside the question of how one determines which lives are innocent lives (presumably a jury is assigned that task.) I then asked if they were concerned that the only studies done of death row inmates using DNA evidence showed that about one third of those for which DNA evidence was available were found to be innocent of the crimes for which they were sentenced to death. They were not concerned.

Apparently this is just another example of "collateral damage." Unavoidable I suppose when one is doing "God's work."

Two outa three ain't bad!:D
 
Quote from piezoe:

Especially ironic considering that one of the ten commandments is :"Thou shalt not kill."

I asked a Baptist once how they reconciled their views on capital punishment in light of the commandments.

the answer: "That commandment only refers to the taking of 'innocent life'.
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"Innocent life" must be in the footnotes, I don't see it in main text. : )
 
Quote from jem:

you slimey lying piece of shit.

I am not bringing the bible into this at all.
I am saying after the court takes a look at this case you will learn that it is a violation of the constitution. A govt can't go around forcing people to be party to what may be homicide.

Would you force an employer to give people drugs to kill cats or dogs?
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Would anyone be asking every month for drugs to kill cats or dogs? Making contraception available does not equate to forcing women to use it.

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I am a supporter of capital punishment, but doesn't it strike anyone as ironic that the evangelicals love to birth 'em and kill 'em later?

Response from PT: NO, I find it quite rational .

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Finding that quite rational? OK, that speaks volumes and explains a lot about you.
 
I thought you meant something deeper...
That a fetus was not yet "life".
If you all you meant was that it could live outside the womb, but you were not commenting on whether it was life right now... then I accept you definition (although I would not use your wording.)


Quote from RichardRimes:

Viable | Define Viable at Dictionary.com
(of a fetus) having reached such a stage of development as to be capable of
living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus. 3. Botany. able to live and
grow.



NOTE "under NORMAL conditions....at 24 weeks I think not. Any rate this is an issue that is still very personal and the fact remains that WOmen resent the hell out of a bunch of old white guys being patronizing and making these choices for women. It wasn't Romney's "smirk" that lost the election its the threat of taking us back to 1954....no thank you. The vast majority of the US consistently votes for CHOICE. Personal, PRIVATE, reproductive rights are not negotiable.
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Would anyone be asking every month for drugs to kill cats or dogs? Making contraception available does not equate to forcing women to use it.

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I am a supporter of capital punishment, but doesn't it strike anyone as ironic that the evangelicals love to birth 'em and kill 'em later?

Response from PT: NO, I find it quite rational .

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Finding that quite rational? OK, that speaks volumes and explains a lot about you.
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yeah innocent until proven guilty.
of course that concept is too complicated for libturds to grasp.
 
lets change the word... so we can you on the left to understand the concept of liberty and freedom.

If the govt forced you to hand out poison, that if used could result in death of children... would that sit well with you as an american?

Quote from mrbill:

Would anyone be asking every month for drugs to kill cats or dogs? Making contraception available does not equate to forcing women to use it.

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I am a supporter of capital punishment, but doesn't it strike anyone as ironic that the evangelicals love to birth 'em and kill 'em later?

Response from PT: NO, I find it quite rational .

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Finding that quite rational? OK, that speaks volumes and explains a lot about you.
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