The real Health Care solution:

Quote from bigarrow:

The insurance problem isn’t the real problem. It is a symptom of our unhealthy eating and lifestyle.
Attempting to solve this or at least lessen the effects should be an issue where the Democrats and Republicans could work together. This wouldn’t be a quick fix but a long term solution. For older Americans changing lifestyle and dietary habits would be hard, but changing attitudes with children will be much easier. They are captive for 9 to 10 months out of the year, within a generation we could have a healthier group of young people coming out of school with the habits and education to have a better chance of keeping the healthy lifestyles. The major killers in our society are heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes and others all are significantly less in people who eat healthy, low fat, smaller portions and more active people. Cutting down on these diseases would totally change the argument on health care.
We have seen success in changing habits with tobacco and drinking and driving and changing our eating habits is something achievable if our politicians can get behind this. We have also seen how the large food and fast food corporations have changed our eating habits. It can work and I believe is the best and most logical solution…lower health care cost and a healthier population. A true win win situation.

I put this in economics because it would change the economic conditions of Americans and American companies and our government for the better.

Lets put them in little Nazi camps and supervise what they eat.
 
Quote from harkm:

I would have paid $450 and made him sue me for the rest.

The real problem with health care is that there is no real competition. Insurance pays the bill. If there was no insurance the price would be much lower. Patients would shop for the best price(like everything else) and read reviews on the doctor. You think it is bad now? Just wait until Obamacare is instituted. Also, there needs to be some sort of malpractice limits.

maybe but the cost of bad credit is more than $450.....a month, I may be getting a mortgage next year......

it was extortion by the DR...its almost like they conspire with banks to trash your credit...........
 
The healthcare bill isn't about healthcare. It's about giving the government more power and insuring that the low lifes of America who always vote Democrat will continue to do so after they get free government healthcare handed to them by the Democrats.
 
I've gone mostly orthomolecular with good, often biochemically measurable results. I have a strong research background. The largest one has tried to hire me, and some of my kids before.

LDL, fibrin high or HDL low? Niacin is $3 per month. Fish oil has better stats than any CVD drug. High dose vitamin D for resistance to winter respiratory illness, under 5 cents for 5000 iu with a 75+% reduction in illnesses.

I consider mandatory insurance dangerous, and for me, nearly a total waste since accidents would be my primary use. I have a known answer or plan for almost every disease that would be mostly non-reimbursable. And cheaper than most deductibles or minimum copays, or cost for gasoline to the office.
 
The real bottom line:

Price controls and the "Public Option".

How else can you force the drug companies and insurance companies and the medical community into compliance?
 
Growing up we ate very healthy. We had organic and local food before anybody knew what that was. I never even had a Coke (or really any refined sugar) until I was a teenager. All whole grains, and fruits and veggies. The upside is that I am still happy to eat veggies, and I prefer something like shredded wheat for breakfast.

Lots of exercise, and on paper everything looked great.
But still, I was a sickly kid. Our whole family, really.
 
-Medical insurance
-Fire insurance
-Debt insurance
-Credit insurance
-Life insurance
-Travel insurance
-Unemployment insurance
-Liability insurance
-Auto insurance
-Purchase protection insurance
-etc, etc, etc

How many scams can the insurance industry run?

It's one of America's worst criminal enterprises!

Wake up fools. Except for simple "fire/auto insurance", the rest are regulated scams to legally steal from idiots.
 
you forgot Flood Insurance. In some states your home owners insurance does not cover water damage.


And the govt. run Hurricane insurance in the trailer trash belt.

Funny I don't hear any of these god damned god awful geriatric republican zombie imbeciles complain about govt. run hurricane insurance in the trailer trash belt.

It's all a big fucking scam brought to you by your local republican mofo and his god damned voters.



Quote from risktaker:

-Medical insurance
-Fire insurance
-Debt insurance
-Credit insurance
-Life insurance
-Travel insurance
-Unemployment insurance
-Liability insurance
-Auto insurance
-Purchase protection insurance
-etc, etc, etc

How many scams can the insurance industry run?

It's one of America's worst criminal enterprises!

Wake up fools. Except for simple "fire/auto insurance", the rest are regulated scams to legally steal from idiots.
 
Quote from fkbsuhites:

you forgot Flood Insurance. In some states your home owners insurance does not cover water damage.



It is the same in all states, your home owners insurance does not cover flooding.
 
Quote from promagma:

Growing up we ate very healthy. We had organic and local food before anybody knew what that was. I never even had a Coke (or really any refined sugar) until I was a teenager. All whole grains, and fruits and veggies. The upside is that I am still happy to eat veggies, and I prefer something like shredded wheat for breakfast.

Lots of exercise, and on paper everything looked great.
But still, I was a sickly kid. Our whole family, really.

Yeah, I think this organic movement is a scam. I eat a lot of that crap because my wife has gone overboard with it. Bland and expensive. She comes home the other day with a $20 "free range" chicken from the grocery store, and it's not even cut up! I had to break the news that there will NOT be any more $20 chickens in this house! :D
 
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