The Rally

Quote from Restricted:

God am i good.


These minor dips with buying opportunities will end soon, when its that easy to predict, there is problems. They so want this market above 12k.....I wouldnt mind going long but not up here I think there is too much risk. I think a pullback below 11750 would be a good place to go long.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Trade what you SEE! Not what you THINK!


I came close to buying a few hundred shares of QLD at 83 but thought no way!!! And of course its now trading higher....
 
Quote from S2007S:

haha 0.6% CORE PPI and the dow is down 12 points hmmmmm, manipulation I THINK SO.

12,000 by 4pm

It must be the Elders of Zion pulling the puppet strings. How will we stop them? Save us, Pikachu!

:D
 
The main problem i see with this market (and my opinion does not count for much) is how optomistic people are. It is clearly over bought and a correction is going to come sometime in the near future.
 
Quote from Raystonn:

After taxes you may be able to collect the equivalent of 3.75% on those CDs.

How can you possibly think 3.75% APY beats inflation?

So you are saying that the U.S. savings rate being negative is bad because... the U.S. savings rate is negative?

No need to lash out just because you are having trouble understanding.

This is actually the most efficient way to manage money when your buying dollars are eroded by inflation more quickly than savings will increase your dollars.

Sure, there are negative long term effects. But these are the effects of inflation being higher than what the average person can get in savings vehicles. A negative savings rate is just a symptom of this. Fix the inflation-higher-than-savings-APY-after-taxes problem and the negative savings rate will fix itself.

Both savings and inflation compound. That is fairly common knowledge. Please stick to arguing what you understand.

-Raystonn

I think it's you who seemingly is having trouble understanding. Let's go a bit S L O W E R ... the US savings rate is negative because consumers are spending all their wages and dipping into savings. Do you advocate they get more credit cards to max out so they can pay off the lower percentage cards they've already maxed out?

Inflation over the past 90+ years is around 3.4% on average annually. So the CD @ 5.6% will outpace inflation at today's CD rates. And the net yield for the "average" non-saving consumer will exceed the 3.75% you cited. Avg. inflation over past 5 years is 2.76%.

And no ... "fixing" the APY on savings vs. inflation won't solve the problem. US consumers by and large want everything today ... they buy what they want .. whether they need it or not and whether they have the money or not.

And maybe you'll be a Wal-Mart "greeter" in your old age if you've not saved any $$$ for retirement. Go see what the average 50 year old has in retirement savings. It's nothing ...

This isn't rocket science ...
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Trade what you SEE! Not what you THINK!

I have to give Mav credit for one thing that seems forgotten a bit on this thread. We are traders, not investors. Investors can afford to be contrarian. Countertrending traders generally can't stay solvent long enough to prove themselves right.

Trying to predict a market drop over the next week using market fundamentals is nonsense.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Dude, who cares. One day when the market rolls over, then get short. Trade what you see, not what you think. You are trying to rationalize a short position. Nothing wrong with being short, but don't be short because you think John Q Public is spending too much money. The cardinal sin in trading is trying to talk your book.

You may be right, the end of the world might be upon us. But we might rally first! :D

Absolutely frickin' right.
 
note: intel just reported and pulled one of these....


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edit: after-hours suckers gaping the price for tomorrow's open have caused me to find another way to express what I see:

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