The Philando Castile Verdict Was a Miscarriage of Justice

Coming from the National Review... and I agree with them

The Philando Castile Verdict Was a Miscarriage of Justice
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/448740/philando-castile-verdict-was-miscarriage-justice

I am not familiar with the case. But if it happened the way the article you posted says it did, then I completely agree. The officer should have gone to jail for a long time.

I have been stopped before and informed the officer that I was carrying. I am very detailed and specific and speak slowly in a manner that cannot be mistaken or is too difficult to hear about where my firearm is (usually on my hip) and where my credentials are. When driving with my firearm, I purposely put my wallet on the dashboard holder of my jeep (which is right below the rear view mirror, up high). There can be no mistake this way of where I am reaching.

But it is important for officers to understand that CCW holders are the safest, most law abiding demographic in the country. The above article mentions this. The above article is also a perfect example of a very poorly trained police officer who probably didn't do that well in his psych eval.
 
The Acquittal Verdict In The Philando Castile Case Is An Abomination
There was no good reason for Jeronimo Yanez to have opened fire upon Philando Castile. He had no indication that there was any reason to do so.

It is a genuinely open question whether an American police officer can do almost anything without suffering criminal consequences. Americans have a profoundly stupid and misguided deferential attitude toward law enforcement, one which presumes that police officers—fallible, often incompetent, and frequently temperamental human beings—are worthy of some sort of extra-special benefit of the doubt about their professional behavior. American citizens have no problem suing doctors for their back molars on the flimsiest of pretexts, but we generally cannot bring ourselves to convict police officers for demonstrably inept and reckless behavior that often costs people their lives.

That is the lesson we learn, yet again, in the acquittal of Jeronimo Yanez, a St. Anthony, Minnesota police officer who last year shot Philando Castile during a traffic stop. At face value the incident is a perfect storm of a tragedy. Yanez thought Castile might have been a robbery suspect; Castile was carrying a pistol (for which he had a valid permit), and informed Yanez of this as he reached for his license. Yanez, allegedly believing that Castile was reaching for his declared firearm, consequently opened fire.


You can sort of understand Yanez’s hasty reaction—if you don’t think about it too much. Upon reflection there was no good reason for Yanez to have opened fire upon Castile. He had no indication there was any reason to do so. As the prosecutor in Yanez’s criminal trial put it, “Unreasonable fear cannot justify the use of deadly force. The use of deadly force must be objectively reasonable and necessary, given the totality of the circumstances.”

Acknowledging a Weapon Is Not a Crime
A man telling you he is permitted to carry a firearm while he’s reaching for his license does not, by any rational standard, give one “objectively reasonable and necessary” justification for shooting that man. It also beggars belief that someone with murderous intent would politely inform a police officer of his concealed weapon before pulling it out to use it. How many cop-killers give their victims a calm and friendly heads-up before opening fire?

Yanez should have known this. He was no fresh-faced rookie just out of the academy; he had been on the force for four years. The charges eventually leveled at him—second-degree manslaughter and two felony counts of dangerous discharge of a firearm—were perfectly reasonable given the circumstances. Nobody was asking that Yanez be charged with first-degree murder and be given the death penalty; prosecutors simply asked that he be brought to justice for behavior that would have landed any one of the rest of us in prison.

But that didn’t happen, for the simple reason that we have a queer aversion to convicting police officers when they quite obviously break the law. A few years ago a police officer in South Carolina shot Walter Scott in the back as Scott was running away, an incident captured on video, leaving no doubt as to just what had transpired. Even the crystal-clear evidence of the officer’s criminal behavior, however, wasn’t enough to convict him. The jury ended up hung and a mistrial was declared.


Obvious video evidence of an officer putting five shots into a man’s back should lead to a slam-dunk conviction after about three minutes of deliberation. That it didn’t—and that this kind of thing happens, in varying degrees, all the time—suggests that Americans have a deeply dysfunctional and unhealthy attitude about what constitutes acceptable police behavior.

To its great credit, the St. Anthony Police Department has announced that Yanez will no longer be a part of their force. Call it a matter of politics, optics, or something else, but in the end it is a good thing that Yanez is off the streets. But it is still not enough. He should, by any sensible metric of justice, be behind bars.

Philando Castile is dead, and he’s dead because Yanez killed him for no good reason. This is not a hard nut to crack. We should not be afraid to prosecute and convict law enforcement officers for unjustly killing innocent people. The police, good as they can be, are not above the law. Nobody is.
 
A gross failure of the judicial system to bring this cop to justice. Unlike similar cases this one had the proper charges being brought by the prosecution. Manslaughter was the appropriate charge. How the hell any jury could not be able to interpret "culpable negligence" is beyond me. It is said that they were having difficulty with this technical jargon which is very straight-forward. Another cop with no business carrying a gun and a badge giving him the authority to be judge, jury and executioner in a split second. His defense was the usual, "he feared for his life". This guy is wither the biggest pussy on the planet, or just another trigger happy cop. I think it's the latter.
 
A gross failure of the judicial system to bring this cop to justice. Unlike similar cases this one had the proper charges being brought by the prosecution. Manslaughter was the appropriate charge. How the hell any jury could not be able to interpret "culpable negligence" is beyond me. It is said that they were having difficulty with this technical jargon which is very straight-forward. Another cop with no business carrying a gun and a badge giving him the authority to be judge, jury and executioner in a split second. His defense was the usual, "he feared for his life". This guy is wither the biggest pussy on the planet, or just another trigger happy cop. I think it's the latter.

I got a speeding ticket once, the cop was nervous as fuk writing me the ticket. Made me feel edgy that this guy could snap on the slightest perception of provocation. They really need to have higher standards for those who join. I don't really think the US has a lack of police force problem do they?
 
I am not familiar with the case. But if it happened the way the article you posted says it did, then I completely agree. The officer should have gone to jail for a long time.

I have been stopped before and informed the officer that I was carrying. I am very detailed and specific and speak slowly in a manner that cannot be mistaken or is too difficult to hear about where my firearm is (usually on my hip) and where my credentials are. When driving with my firearm, I purposely put my wallet on the dashboard holder of my jeep (which is right below the rear view mirror, up high). There can be no mistake this way of where I am reaching.

But it is important for officers to understand that CCW holders are the safest, most law abiding demographic in the country. The above article mentions this. The above article is also a perfect example of a very poorly trained police officer who probably didn't do that well in his psych eval.

girlfriend streamed video of the aftermath. Pretty sad, even if it tells you nothing about what transpired a few seconds ago...although the girlfriend's story right then and there was as described in the article.
 
I got a speeding ticket once, the cop was nervous as fuk writing me the ticket. Made me feel edgy that this guy could snap on the slightest perception of provocation. They really need to have higher standards for those who join. I don't really think the US has a lack of police force problem do they?

Consider what the job pays (almost nothing) and what it demands (your life is in danger on every traffic stop, every disturbance call). Sure, pensions are good (assuming they stay solvent) and you work a 4 day shift, but you certainly will never get rich being a cop (unless you become the Chief in some town in California that pays absurd salaries). Add to that the psychological profile drawn to positions of authority like police officers and career soldiers and you have a recipe for disaster. Only a certain type of individual can be a good cop. To find a good number of those individuals, provide them the comprehensive training they need and keep them alive and interested in the job is miracle enough.
 
Dashboard footage of the incident released, while i think this cop definitely fucked up and deserved some kind of jail time, i can still empathize with the guy somewhat in this case, he was clearly scared shitless, and didnt want to do it, hes totally fucked up afterwords, not a stone cold killer.

Unfortunately in this kind of position mistakes like that are going to be made, but i think its wrong for the guy to just get off scott free, it sends the wrong message to the very few cops who are out there who actually are just looking to blow some dudes head off.

 
I know i sure wouldnt want to be forced to make a split decision like this with my life on the line, but it doesnt excuse it, we pay them to do that, sorry but there is a certain amount of risk involved in the job you decided to do, even though i can empathize with the cop.


Dash Cam Video of Philando Castile’s Fatal Shooting Has Been Released
by Faith Gates | 5:23 pm, June 20th, 2017
Almost a year ago in St. Anthony, Minn., officer Jeronimo Yanez pulled Philando Castile over for a broken taillight and ended up fatally shooting Castile. The court released the dash cam video Tuesday depicting the graphic 10-minute scene unfold.

The video starts with Yanez and his partner pulling Castile over for the broken taillight and asking for his license. Castile says, “Sir, I do have to tell you, I have a firearm.” Yanez immediately put his hand on his gun and told him not to pull it out. According to Castile’s girlfriend in the front seat, he was reaching for either his license or registration from his wallet in his pocket. In a few seconds of confusion, the video, showing only the officer, shows Yanez screaming, “Don’t pull it out! Don’t pull it out!” before firing seven shots into the car.

Castile’s girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, began a Facebook Live video immediately following the shooting, and she is heard in the video narrating what just happened, including mentioning Castile had a permit to carry.

Yanez continues to hold Castile at gunpoint, telling him not to move, while the couple’s four-year-old daughter is removed from the car. Yanez is heard heavily breathing and repeatedly saying “F–k!” He continues to hold him at gunpoint with no sounds coming from Castile. Meanwhile, backup arrives, and Reynolds is removed from the car.

When backup arrives, the video shows them removing Castile from the car and attempting CPR on him, while Yanez calms down off camera, still breathing shakily and cursing.

An officer comes to Yanez off camera who he tells “I’m f—ed up right now” to. She asks which direction he fired his weapon. He responds “Right at the driver. I had it right out. I had it pointed down. I don’t know how many rounds I got off.”

Yanez then describes what happened, saying, “He was sitting in the car, seat belted. I told him, ‘Can I see your license?’ He told me had a firearm and I told him not to reach for it and when he went down to grab, I told him not to reach for it and then he kept it right there and I told him to take his hands off of it. He had his grip a lot wider than a wallet. And I didn’t know where the gun was; he didn’t tell me where the f—ing gun was. It was just getting hinky. He was just staring straight ahead. And I was getting f—ing nervous. I told him to get his f—ing hand off his gun… F–k!”

Yanez described the passengers in the car, still struggling to breath, before answering the same questions to another officer off camera before the video ends.

This video comes after Yanez’s trial concluded on Friday, when he was found not guilty of second-degree manslaughter and two counts of reckless discharge of a firearm.
 
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