The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

[Cuddles]

so you make a pee analogy and I show it to be shit... for fun...
and now you want to talk about masks?

Three studies I read said fabric masks have not shown any efficacy in stopping the transmission of Covid. They see things like they may be useful.

You may find one or two studies which say they could be useful...
But so far I have not seen any solid science.

Do you have any?

I use an n95 mask, so don't know what to tell you. Don't be an idiot maybe?

 

[jem]

you are the idiot who talks about pee.

but... I will tell you that as of a few weeks ago... for you to have any chance of the n95 working your mask should fit very well. I heard doctors and nurses were getting fitted for specific ones. But even then they were no promises that they were doing anything for Covid.

Maybe some studies have come out in the last few weeks...

I use an n95 mask, so don't know what to tell you. Don't be an idiot maybe?

 

[Cuddles]

you are the idiot who talks about pee.

but... I will tell you that as of a few weeks ago... for you to have any chance of the n95 working you mask should fit very well. I heard doctors and nurses were getting fitted for specific ones. But even then they were no promises that they were doing anything for Covid.

Maybe some studies have come out in the last few weeks...

yes, i can read the packaging instructions

 

[jem]

I don't own one. I have seen them in the package.

But I know some nurses and other medical types were getting them custom fit because the masks didn't fit them well enough.

yes, i can read the packaging instructions

 

[CaptainObvious]

No there's no maybe, maybe not on facts.

If it is an absolute fact that time of exposure is the be all and end all of determining who will be infected then every single health care worker should have already been infected, every single one of them. Have they? No they have not. Yet with a extremely limited time of exposure when the virus gets into a nursing home it spreads like wildfire. This would have a sensible non politically motivated person thinking that strength of immune system plays a major role not only in fighting off the illness after infection, but also in whether or not one gets infected to begin with.

 

[Cuddles]

If it is an absolute fact that time of exposure is the be all and end all of determining who will be infected then every single health care worker should have already been infected, every single one of them. Have they? No they have not. Yet with a extremely limited time of exposure when the virus gets into a nursing home it spreads like wildfire. This would have a sensible non politically motivated person thinking that strength of immune system plays a major role not only in fighting off the illness after infection, but also in whether or not one gets infected to begin with.

Let's deal with facts, does the majority of the population who go to restaurants also do grocery shopping? Do you increase your chances exposure time to public places if you don't forego restaurants?

 

[CaptainObvious]

Let's deal with facts, does the majority of the population who go to restaurants also do grocery shopping? Do you increase your chances exposure time to public places if you don't forego restaurants?

Yes people do both and yes the more you are out the more risk of exposure you have. We agree on that. What I'm saying is that time of exposure doesn't mean with certainty that a person will actually become ill, or infected at all. The risk, the real risk is getting deathly ill. We know who those group are for all practical purposes. No argument, lock them down as tight as we can. Everyone else can go about their business taking precautions which make sense knowing that most will have little to no symptoms, and the rest will find themselves with an ass kicking case of the flu and then recover. There just isn't any need at this point to keep everyone at home.

 

[Cuddles]

Yes people do both and yes the more you are out the more risk of exposure you have. We agree on that. What I'm saying is that time of exposure doesn't mean with certainty that a person will actually become ill, or infected at all. The risk, the real risk is getting deathly ill. We know who those group are for all practical purposes. No argument, lock them down as tight as we can. Everyone else can go about their business taking precautions which make sense knowing that most will have little to no symptoms, and the rest will find themselves with an ass kicking case of the flu and then recover. There just isn't any need at this point to keep everyone at home.

Then you're having a completely different argument than I am

 

[smallfil]

Yes people do both and yes the more you are out the more risk of exposure you have. We agree on that. What I'm saying is that time of exposure doesn't mean with certainty that a person will actually become ill, or infected at all. The risk, the real risk is getting deathly ill. We know who those group are for all practical purposes. No argument, lock them down as tight as we can. Everyone else can go about their business taking precautions which make sense knowing that most will have little to no symptoms, and the rest will find themselves with an ass kicking case of the flu and then recover. There just isn't any need at this point to keep everyone at home.

What affects you getting seriously, ill with Corona Virus is the number of droplets that adhere to your body. That is why if you are out in public, a hot bath with soap should be enough to wash the Corona Virus droplets that might have adhered to your body. If it is gone from your body, it will not get into your eyes, nose or mouth which are the entry points of the Corona Virus. Wind also, disperses the Corona Virus as well as other viruses and germs. Doctors have suggested opening the windows of your room to disperse viruses and germs that may have gotten trapped inside your room. Out in public, exposed to the hot sun, Corona Virus droplets will die off. The wind will dissipate it rendering its effects less lethal to you as well. That is why beaches and parks should not be shutdown. It is the height of stupidity.

 

[gwb-trading]

you made claims and now you refuse to support them.
all you have to do is provide some quotes and some links.

I will tell you why you are not providing any links and quotes...

1. its because you were proven full of shit on other threads and I believe you are full of shit on this thread...

2. as you have been full shit on the doctor birx issue about 25% overcount
on the other thread
3. and you were full of shit when you said the WHO said we can't get to immunity
4. and you were full of shit on the de Prado thread where you completely mis-represented what he said

5. and you have been full of shit on multiple other threads from R0 rates to claiming Germany was a success because of massive testing and tracing. Which was unfounded bullshit when you said it..

you are a compulsive and proven liar on Covid threads.

Clearly you disagree with my feedback. However I have provided links with facts for all of my assertions.

• I obviously provided the the article from WHO stating that vaccines are the ONLY path to immunity. Here is is again - WHO calls herd immunity without vaccine ‘dangerous'
  
• I have seen no evidence that Dr. Brix stated that the CDC under-counted -- those words never came from her mouth. Which is the point I have made. You can disagree but you have no proof she stated anything about an under-count -- this is merely context pushed by administration officials.
  
• I would urge you to go back and review the graphs from de Prado which outlined lockdown times and scenarios. The point I made is that all of his information was based on the fact that a community started with a lockdown - the only question is how long.
• Germany and South Korea are the leaders in COVID-19 response. We should learn from Germany and follow their lead. I will post this once again and urge you to read it - Germany is reopening with one of the lowest death rates in the world. Here's how it barely missed a trick as it fought the coronavirus

You claiming that everyone who disagrees with you is a liar over and over and over again.... while you post no information supporting your assertions is simply sad.

Let me state one final point. -- If I have already posted a link once for you in the ET forums I will not post it a second time anymore. I will tell you to go use the search function to find the earlier reference.

Posting an article over and over and over because you demand it and claim I have not "provided any links or quotes" is an abuse of the forum. I am not going to be accused by others of abusing ET because I posted a link multiple times to meet your absurd demands. As of today, this is done with. Use the search function and educate yourself.