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Trump Administration Tells States To Yank Benefits From Those Who Won’t Return To Work
New Labor Department guidance encourages states to get employers to report on people refusing job offers.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coro...s-labor-department_n_5eb9f403c5b687934c5918d7

Congress created special unemployment benefits so that laid-off workers could stay home while the coronavirus pandemic rages outside, but the Trump administration wants states to make sure that nobody’s getting benefits if they could be at work.

The U.S. Department of Labor has told states, which implement unemployment insurance programs according to federal rules, that they should ask employers to notify the state if someone turns down an offer to come back to work.

In a guidance memo on Monday evening, the Labor Department said “states are strongly encouraged to request employers to provide information when workers refuse to return to their jobs for reasons that do not support their continued eligibility for benefits.”

The guidance comes as President Donald Trump is calling on states to lift restrictions on commerce so that the economy might get back on track ahead of the November election, even though the national death toll from COVID-19 is still rising at a brisk pace.

“We have to be warriors,” Trump said last week. “We can’t keep our country closed down for years.”

Several Republican-led states have already said business can resume and specifically warned that workers can’t receive unemployment benefits if their employer wants them back. At the same time, states are still struggling with the basic task of distributing benefits.

Several laid-off workers have told HuffPost that they’re still waiting for payments, including some who filed their claims more than a month ago. Millions of workers have probably not been paid, said Andrew Stettner, a senior fellow at The Century Foundation, a progressive think tank.

The government’s “responsibility is to pay for weeks of unemployment compensation when the payments are due,” Stettner said, noting that the federal standard for acceptable performance is that 87% of benefits are paid within 21 days ― a standard that has likely not been met.

More than 30 million Americans have applied for unemployment benefits in the last six weeks, an unprecedented surge in claims. The Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act provided an extra $600 per week in unemployment compensation and made independent contractors and the self-employed eligible for benefits for the first time. The new policies forced states to attempt to quickly update antiquated computer systems.

To reduce its backlog of claims, California tried suspending a requirement that claimants repeatedly certify that they are still eligible for benefits. Monday’s Labor Department guidance, however, said states can’t cut people any slack on certification.

Employers are generally encouraged to report anyone on unemployment who refuses an offer of “suitable work” ― this is not a new feature of the program. But the Labor Department is asking for a crackdown on people who decline work offers when it’s not clear if the definition of “suitable” includes risking exposure to a highly contagious, brand-new virus that is still mysterious to doctors and that has killed more than 82,000 Americans in a matter of weeks.

“If this guidance is going up that people need to be reported for refusing suitable work, then the department should also make it clear that you shouldn’t be offering unsafe work and considering it suitable,” said Michele Evermore, a senior researcher and policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project.

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Good!

Cut the bonus payment they are receiving (which I think expires in July) that allows these folks to make more than what they made when they weren't sitting at home. Total stupidity there.

Let them know that UE benefits are taxable and they'll be paying on them come April. Many don't know this and are usually shocked to find it out (we're not talking about the brightest of our population).
 
Good!

I agree. Our local businesses have started re-opening last Friday for business. Most have help wanted signs in the window since the staff they furloughed rather stay at home & earn more money each week with the federal $600 payment.... and there is no rule that they are required to come back to work now that their job is available.
 
Trump Administration Tells States To Yank Benefits From Those Who Won’t Return To Work
New Labor Department guidance encourages states to get employers to report on people refusing job offers.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coro...s-labor-department_n_5eb9f403c5b687934c5918d7

Congress created special unemployment benefits so that laid-off workers could stay home while the coronavirus pandemic rages outside, but the Trump administration wants states to make sure that nobody’s getting benefits if they could be at work.

The U.S. Department of Labor has told states, which implement unemployment insurance programs according to federal rules, that they should ask employers to notify the state if someone turns down an offer to come back to work.

In a guidance memo on Monday evening, the Labor Department said “states are strongly encouraged to request employers to provide information when workers refuse to return to their jobs for reasons that do not support their continued eligibility for benefits.”

The guidance comes as President Donald Trump is calling on states to lift restrictions on commerce so that the economy might get back on track ahead of the November election, even though the national death toll from COVID-19 is still rising at a brisk pace.

“We have to be warriors,” Trump said last week. “We can’t keep our country closed down for years.”

Several Republican-led states have already said business can resume and specifically warned that workers can’t receive unemployment benefits if their employer wants them back. At the same time, states are still struggling with the basic task of distributing benefits.

Several laid-off workers have told HuffPost that they’re still waiting for payments, including some who filed their claims more than a month ago. Millions of workers have probably not been paid, said Andrew Stettner, a senior fellow at The Century Foundation, a progressive think tank.

The government’s “responsibility is to pay for weeks of unemployment compensation when the payments are due,” Stettner said, noting that the federal standard for acceptable performance is that 87% of benefits are paid within 21 days ― a standard that has likely not been met.

More than 30 million Americans have applied for unemployment benefits in the last six weeks, an unprecedented surge in claims. The Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act provided an extra $600 per week in unemployment compensation and made independent contractors and the self-employed eligible for benefits for the first time. The new policies forced states to attempt to quickly update antiquated computer systems.

To reduce its backlog of claims, California tried suspending a requirement that claimants repeatedly certify that they are still eligible for benefits. Monday’s Labor Department guidance, however, said states can’t cut people any slack on certification.

Employers are generally encouraged to report anyone on unemployment who refuses an offer of “suitable work” ― this is not a new feature of the program. But the Labor Department is asking for a crackdown on people who decline work offers when it’s not clear if the definition of “suitable” includes risking exposure to a highly contagious, brand-new virus that is still mysterious to doctors and that has killed more than 82,000 Americans in a matter of weeks.

“If this guidance is going up that people need to be reported for refusing suitable work, then the department should also make it clear that you shouldn’t be offering unsafe work and considering it suitable,” said Michele Evermore, a senior researcher and policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project.

(more at above url)
People called back to work are no longer eligible for unemployment benefits, been that way forever. If those people are still owed money from said benefits they are entitled to them and should collect. There are people who have been unemployed and yet to receive benefits, I know a few. The system is failing those people and needs to be rectified pronto, but anyone called back to work will and should see those benefits stop.
 
I agree. Our local businesses have started re-opening last Friday for business. Most have help wanted signs in the window since the staff they furloughed rather stay at home & earn more money each week with the federal $600 payment.... and there is no rule that they are required to come back to work now that their job is available.
Isn't anyone should be receiving that 600 bucks if they are called back to work. That's scamming the system, if people are doing so and needs to stop.
 
People called back to work are no longer eligible for unemployment benefits, been that way forever. If those people are still owed money from said benefits they are entitled to them and should collect. There are people who have been unemployed and yet to receive benefits, I know a few. The system is failing those people and needs to be rectified pronto, but anyone called back to work will and should see those benefits stop.

It appears that the way the recent federal legislation was written it implies that if furloughed employees are scared of COVId-19 then they don't need to return to work. Or at least it is open to this interpretation.

The overload unemployment benefits system is a mess in most states. It is taking weeks to process claims, and many claims are improperly by recently hired contractors to handle the overload. Likewise the information being given out by recently hired contact-center employees at third party vendors is consistently incorrect.
 
Isn't anyone should be receiving that 600 bucks if they are called back to work. That's scamming the system, if people are doing so and needs to stop.

I agree but many rather scam the system for more money than they would earn working. The unemployment system is not even keeping up with new claims - I doubt whether they will keep up with people who fail to return to work even when the employer reports it.
 
It appears that the way the recent federal legislation was written it implies that if furloughed employees are scared of COVId-19 then they don't need to return to work. Or at least it is open to this interpretation.

The overload unemployment benefits system is a mess in most states. It is taking weeks to process claims, and many claims are improperly by recently hired contractors to handle the overload. Likewise the information being given out by recently hired contact-center employees at third party vendors is consistently incorrect.
The system is a mess, that's for sure. Big boys get their money fast, little guys not so much. Business as usual. Legislation needs clarification if it's allowing people to refuse going back to work and still collect the 600. That's not right and there are plenty of people who will have no problem staying on that government tit forever while claiming some bullshit excuse. Field day for the lawyers.
 
I agree. Our local businesses have started re-opening last Friday for business. Most have help wanted signs in the window since the staff they furloughed rather stay at home & earn more money each week with the federal $600 payment.... and there is no rule that they are required to come back to work now that their job is available.

I hope they find people who want to work, and I hope those sitting on their asses at home hoping the gravy train will continue (and why wouldn't they hope with the democrats promising more free money) find out what it means to have that gravy train stopped cold turkey.
 
I hope they find people who want to work, and I hope those sitting on their asses at home hoping the gravy train will continue (and why wouldn't they hope with the democrats promising more free money) find out what it means to have that gravy train stopped cold turkey.

On the good news front - our neighbor's college-aged child called the Hibachi place on Monday and they said they had hired the people they needed. She got a summer job though minutes later at a retail store in the same mall complex.

So some progress is being made on hiring.
 
I agree but many rather scam the system for more money than they would earn working. The unemployment system is not even keeping up with new claims - I doubt whether they will keep up with people who fail to return to work even when the employer reports it.
That's the problem when you just pull some number out of your ass and just apply it across the board. Better would have been just regular unemployment and debt relief/extensions on mortgages, car payments and the like. No perfect way to do it, and there would be people still hustling while others are hurting. It's a mess the way they did this. Again, my argument of too much, too fast. We may have gotten here anyway, but throttling it back rather than just killing the engine would have been an easier way to manage this.
 
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