The one contest where election fraud is significant...and perpetrated by Republicans.

[gwb-trading]

Why is criminal Mark Harris who you admit is a fraudster wanting to certify the list?

Does the alleged fraud perpetuated by McCrae Dowless in Bladen and Robinson counties change the results of the election? Let's do the math - Dowless was involved with a total of 580 absentee ballots and the margin of victory was 905 votes.

Should all the elections from 2007 to 2015 where McCrae Dowless did the same thing for Democrats have their results overturned?

As stated by our state's leading political pundit -- "Dowless merely brought Democratic tactics to a Republican campaign"

 

[exGOPer]

Does the alleged fraud perpetuated by McCrae Dowless in Bladen and Robinson counties change the results of the election? Let's do the math - Dowless was involved with a total of 580 absentee ballots and the margin of victory was 905 votes.

So you agree there was fraud at such wide scale and you want results to be ceritfied? How should the board certify the election while knowing that many of the votes are illegitimate? This is not about 'margin of victory' - this is about certifying results without knowing how many votes legal or not.

Should all the elections from 2007 to 2015 where McCrae Dowless did the same thing for Democrats have their results overturned?.

Did he admit doing that? If yes then those Democrats should resign and prosecuted. Weak whataboutism as usual.

 

[gwb-trading]

Did he admit doing that? If yes then those Democrats should resign and prosecuted. Weak whataboutism as usual.

From 2007 to 2015 McCrae Dowless was paid to work on the campaigns of Democrats in these counties collecting absentee ballots. The same thing he did in 2016 and 2018 for Republicans. This is already an established fact that there is no dispute about.

 

[exGOPer]

From 2007 to 2015 McCrae Dowless was paid to work on the campaigns of Democrats in these counties collecting absentee ballots. The same thing he did in 2016 and 2018 for Republicans. This is already an established fact that there is no dispute about.

And? Prosecute and eject Democrats if evidence is found that he did the same thing. I am asking about why the current Republican who is caught in fraud is asking results to be certified, how can the board certify when they are not sure what the count for valid ballots is.

 

[gwb-trading]

And? Prosecute and eject Democrats if evidence is found that he did the same thing. I am asking about why the current Republican who is caught in fraud is asking results to be certified, how can the board certify when they are not sure what the count for valid ballots is.

Let's work through the math again... Dowless was involved with a total of only 580 absentee ballots and the margin of victory was 905 votes. Is there scenario where Harris could have lost the election? The answer is No.

There is also the issue that Mark Harris (just like all the previous Democrats) claims he had no knowledge of what Dowless was doing. There are no evidence at this point that Harris was directly involved in fraud.

From a legal perspective Harris has a fairly strong case that the elections results should be certified.

 

[exGOPer]

Let's work through the math again... Dowless was involved with a total of only 580 absentee ballots and the margin of victory was 905 votes. Is there scenario where Harris could have lost the election? The answer is No..

So? On what basis should the board certify the result when they don't know the scale of fraud? Maybe only 560 ballots were illegal, others were valid - what should the board list as the winning margin when they certify the result?

Why is this so complicated for you to understand? Even if it was one vote, the board cannot certify the results without knowing that all the votes are valid, invalid or to be discarded.

 

[gwb-trading]

So? On what basis should the board certify the result when they don't know the scale of fraud? Maybe only 560 ballots were illegal, others were valid - what should the board list as the winning margin when they certify the result?

Why is this so complicated for you to understand? Even if it was one vote, the board cannot certify the results without knowing that all the votes are valid, invalid or to be discarded.

Let's try this again.... at most only 580 absentee ballots were fraudulent. The margin of victory was 905 votes. Explain on the basis of math how Harris could have lost the general election.

The state election board has certified hundreds of elections in our state over the past 50 years where their were documented claims of fraud. Including some elections where political operatives were indicted by the Feds. The proper criteria -- that they have stated in the past - is that if the margin of victory is greater than the possible number of fraudulent votes then the election must be certified.

 

[exGOPer]

Let's try this again.... at most only 580 absentee ballots were fraudulent. The margin of victory was 905 votes. Explain on the basis of math how Harris could have lost the general election.

The state election board has certified hundreds of elections in our state over the past 50 years where their were documented claims of fraud. Including some elections where political operatives were indicted by the Feds. The proper criteria -- that they have stated in the past - is that if the margin of victory is greater than the possible number of fraudulent votes then the election must be certified.

Let's try this again..just tell me by what margin should the board certify the result when they DONT KNOW how many of the votes were legal and illegal? Margin of victory is irrelevant, if you do not know the margins, what number should the board put in when they certify the result?

In case of documented claims of fraud, the ballots get invalidated - how many of the ballots in this case should be invalidated since not all of the ballots in question maybe illegal.

 

[gwb-trading]

Let's try this again..just tell me by what margin should the board certify the result when they DONT KNOW how many of the votes were legal and illegal? Margin of victory is irrelevant, if you do not know the margins, what number should the board put in when they certify the result?

In case of documented claims of fraud, the ballots get invalidated - how many of the ballots in this case should be invalidated since not all of the ballots in question maybe illegal.

As quoted in many previous articles on this subject -- the margin of victory is very relevant for certifying an election. In fact it is one of the most important, primary factors in the certification decision.

They do know with certainty now that at most 580 absentee ballots are at risk of being fraudulent. They do know without doubt the maximum possible number of possible fraudulent ballots.

They have already posted previous elections in our state with two results of ballot totals; one per the accounting and the other listing disputed ballots.

 

[exGOPer]

As quoted in many previous articles on this subject -- the margin of victory is very relevant for certifying an election. In fact it is one of the most important, primary factors in the certification decision..

That's exactly what I am saying, how can the board certify results without knowing that margin? How can they be sure that there wasn't more fraud in the results without a proper investigation? This was organized by the Republican on a grand scale, it was not a one off fraud where the voter themselves made the decision knowingly or unknowingly.