The Obamacare success stories you haven't been hearing about
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Tsu-paid-for-trickle is more like it. Yes, there are certainly many people overjoyed for getting free/subsidized health insurance, and I don't blame them, I would be very happy too if I were in that group. Problem is that for the vast, vast majority, the news are bad. Progress towards better and more widely available health insurance could have been made by utilizing market forces (eg, across state-line insurance company competition, transferability of your insurance from job to job, etc) and well controlled/managed expansion of Medicaid. Instead, we got this Soviet-style reform shoved down our throats by completely incompetent, dishonest amateurs who, unfortunately, run this country with an iron fist these days. We need real change folks!
No, profiled were people who have shitty jobs. Answer this .. how can the 59 year old lesbo married couple go from paying $1300/month to $142/month? My wife and I are of the same age and we are quoted $1000/month for an Odumbocare policy, up from the $364/month we now pay. They get the $142/month because their income is next to nothing. Look at every person featured .. what's the common denominator? SUBSIDIES (i.e. free $$$).
These are not 'success' stories in any way, shape or form. These are people being subsidized by healthy people like myself and many others. End of story.
Uhh I stated " These are not 'success' stories in any way, shape or form. These are people being subsidized by healthy people like myself and many others. End of story."
No it is a FACT that these people are being subsidized by me and other healthy people. Why the hell are my rates going up 200%? To subsidize the slobs and other unhealthy people.
A disastrous story:
Fox Blames Obamacare For Fictional Layoffs At Cleveland Clinic
Fox News reported that the Cleveland Clinic was instituting "massive layoffs" due to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, but when asked about the reports, a Clinic spokesperson told Media Matters, "We're not."
On November 25, The Daily Caller published an article titled, "Top U.S. hospital laying off staff due to Obamacare." On Fox Business' Markets Now, host Connell McShane reported on the "massive layoffs." America's Newsroom host Bill Hemmer claimed that the Cleveland Clinic was going to "shed workers." Later, during the America's News HQ, Fox reporter Chris Stirewalt claimed that the layoffs "rocked the community there in northeastern Ohio."
But there's one problem: the Cleveland Clinic is not laying off any employees. Eileen Sheil, Cleveland Clinic's Executive Director of Corporate Communications, said in an e-mail to Media Matters, "There have been several mis-reports and they keep mentioning that we're laying off 3,000 employees. We're not." Sheil explained that Cleveland Clinic is offering voluntary retirement to 3,000 eligible employees and that the Clinic is also "working on many initiatives to lower costs, drive efficiencies, reduce duplication of services across our system and provide quality care to our patients." Sheil continued, "Many of these initiatives do not impact our employees."
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Remember kids, FOXNews doesn't lie.
Fox Blames Obamacare For Fictional Layoffs At Cleveland Clinic
Fox News reported that the Cleveland Clinic was instituting "massive layoffs" due to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, but when asked about the reports, a Clinic spokesperson told Media Matters, "We're not."
On November 25, The Daily Caller published an article titled, "Top U.S. hospital laying off staff due to Obamacare." On Fox Business' Markets Now, host Connell McShane reported on the "massive layoffs." America's Newsroom host Bill Hemmer claimed that the Cleveland Clinic was going to "shed workers." Later, during the America's News HQ, Fox reporter Chris Stirewalt claimed that the layoffs "rocked the community there in northeastern Ohio."
But there's one problem: the Cleveland Clinic is not laying off any employees. Eileen Sheil, Cleveland Clinic's Executive Director of Corporate Communications, said in an e-mail to Media Matters, "There have been several mis-reports and they keep mentioning that we're laying off 3,000 employees. We're not." Sheil explained that Cleveland Clinic is offering voluntary retirement to 3,000 eligible employees and that the Clinic is also "working on many initiatives to lower costs, drive efficiencies, reduce duplication of services across our system and provide quality care to our patients." Sheil continued, "Many of these initiatives do not impact our employees."
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Remember kids, FOXNews doesn't lie.
Yes, we leave the heavy duty lying to the Big O, he does it well and often.
First, Media Matters is a far left organization with no credibility imo.
Second, even if we look at you post for a minute, Fox uses the best information available to them to report that The Cleveland Clinic is shedding workers. The Communications lady, Sheil, doing her job, calls it "voluntary retirement", confirming that they do want to lighten up the workforce rolls to lower costs. Important confirmation, small difference in words.
Back during my AT&T days, we used to call it "reorganizing a department outside the company." Many other companies, eg, Lucent, called it early retirement but the terms were not much different from a severance pay, plain and simple.
I don't know the details here, what were the terms, how much pressure was applied to older employees to leave, etc, but it is clear that Fox was right in the essence of their main announcement: the Clinic felt that they had to lose employees because of impending cost pressures, primary of which was ObamaCare, as reported by other credible sources. Period!
More success of Odumbocare .... LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/27/obamacare-small-business_n_4350965.html?ncid=webmail30
Can they get anything to work as advertised prior to 2015?
Bet the cost of implementing this fiasco will exceed $750 million by the time they claim to have a working system. Never mind that it could have been done at 25% or less of such a cost.
Supposedly already at $634 million ...
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-website-millions-glitches/2013/10/10/id/530382
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/27/obamacare-small-business_n_4350965.html?ncid=webmail30
Can they get anything to work as advertised prior to 2015?
Bet the cost of implementing this fiasco will exceed $750 million by the time they claim to have a working system. Never mind that it could have been done at 25% or less of such a cost.
Supposedly already at $634 million ...
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-website-millions-glitches/2013/10/10/id/530382