Quote from maxpi:
Privacy is a modern thing actually, and still largely an illusion. People in tribes in a jungle might go their entire lives with very litlle privacy, in Japan you can talk in a certain way and what is overheard from you will be treated as private, in the middle ages people in Europe went their entire lives without much privacy at all. They did not take a dump in private if they lived in a castle, they sat on the wall and took a krap, I have to imagine that anybody looking in their direction could read their face and tell if they had enough magnesium and fiber in their diet.
Personally, if somebody listened to my phone calls they would get bored. bill O'Reilly pointed out today that if somebody has your phone calls they can cut/splice them and make you say about anything. If somebody is technically astute they can do that with just a few seconds of your voice with some spectral analysis however and spectral equipment is available for a PC that would do the job. I guess the secret is to shut the heck up. I notice that the people that shut the heck up all the time have the money and the guys running their mouths all the time are borrowing from them, maybe there is more to this than meets the ...
Screw it, it's a war on terror, you have to let the government run with it and besides, if they put away as many people as some here seem to think they want to, incarceration will be the normal way of life and the guys on the outside will be the outcasts so relax, kick back, go with the flow, it's just a big paid vacaton, wink wink, nod, nod. Incarceration with WiFi would be my preferred incarceration, there has to be a freedom of speech issue there somewhere, maybe the ACLU will step in and get us WiFi in our brave new world. Lord knows they have done so much in the area of privacy, that is why I had to reveal everything about my life to the IRS last month, because our privacy is so well regarded by the public sector in the US.
Quote from Pekelo:
It has nothing to do with ethnic mix (it is rich white men that keep making the decissions on your behalf), after all Brazil is mixed ethnically too, but the imperialistic approach to world affairs...
Quote from achilles28:
Sad response on this thread.
The fourth amendment is going the way of the dinosaur and all the 'good' Americans on this board couldn't give a damn.
Real smart boys and girls.
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Quote from g222:
Probably because they stay neutral, ie - they keep their nose out or other people's biz.
Exactly.
But then again, they don't have the ethnic mix that makes up the USA - a portion of which will always look to keep us involved in the politics of the land of their origin.
It has nothing to do with ethnic mix (it is rich white men that keep making the decissions on your behalf), after all Brazil is mixed ethnically too, but the imperialistic approach to world affairs...
Why does everything come back to evil rich white men?
The problem with the US staying out of other nations business is that the world could not handle that. Think for a second where the world would be if the US never paid any attention to what goes on outside of its borders.
My guess is that the US would be arguing about grieviences from some other nation interferring in its internal affairs, as would the rest of the world.
What we are seeing is the evolution of the world where the stongest are on top and the weaker or not. It just happens that the US is on top right now, and I hope the US stays there. That's just the way things work. Nature works that way. This cannot be changed. If it wasn't the US it would be some other nation. I am biased since I live in the US, but I would much rather the US be top dog instead of someone else. And to stay the top dog you sometimes have to mix it up the the rest of the pack. It is competition, which has been going on for eons, and everyone wants to be number one. Fortunately, or unfortunately depending on how you look at it, there can only be one number one.
Quote from K-Rock:
People who blindly trust the government probably never got to see it up close. Their are people in it promoting and protecting their own interests sometimes to the detriment of the people.
Additionally, I spent a little time behind the iron curtain and those governments used similar scare tactics and national defense issues to justify their actions.
Wake up before it's too late!!!
Quote from g222:
C'mon K ... how do we handle this thing ... what do we do to prevent future terrorist attacks here ???? It's good to warn ... it's good to raise questions ... but how about coming up with some suggestions on remedies????
Quote from neophyte321:
I agree, our freedoms are being constantly eroded, primarily by the politically-correct left that worships at the government alter.
SEARCHING PHONE RECORDS FOR THOSE CONTACTING KNOWN TERRORISTS DOES NOT INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS 99.9999999999999% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
Granted, that is ALL the feds should be doing, and this MUST BE verified.
In the age of suit-case nukes, ...
Can't imagine the screaming if another actact every occurs again,... "Why were they not intercepted?!?!?!?"
Quote from RedDuke:
K-Rock,
Exactly. I was born and raised in Soviet Union. And, the more behind the scenes things, that this administration did, are uncovered, the more I am shocked by similarities with some of the things that communist regime did.
âWe have an enemy who is out there ready to annihilate us and therefore anything we do is justifiable.â
It sends chills down my spine. People do not value something until it is truly gone. Too many Americans do not realize what kind of privilege freedom is. It is being taken away from us, piece by piece (may be it is already gone, we just do not know yet), and no one voices it strongly out loud.
redduke