The New Normal: Crowdfunding for Police Protection

[Bugenhagen]

Sadly, unfortunately you are correct. However I will note that with many civilizations the decline into chaos & collapse occurs much quicker than most people expect. It starts when there is no respect for the government institutions and law & order.

Endless condemnation of people decrying the institutions etc. as not warranting respect and the GWB solution being more blind respect.

Some researchers did some interesting work and found three basic types of authoratarian personality. I must find that.

 

[Cuddles]

Endless condemnation of people decrying the institutions etc. as not warranting respect and the GWB solution being more blind respect.

Some researchers some interesting work and found three basic types of authoratarian personality. I must find that.

“Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people.”

Michael Brooks

 

[Ricter]

Sadly, unfortunately you are correct. However I will note that with many civilizations the decline into chaos & collapse occurs much quicker than most people expect. It starts when there is no respect for the government institutions and law & order.

Agreed. And that disrespect (include science, too, btw) results when those institutions no longer benefit the general public. That's the growing consensus I think, that our institutions are mainly in service of a corrupt and parasitical elite.

 

[gwb-trading]

Endless condemnation of people decrying the institutions etc. as not warranting respect and the GWB solution being more blind respect.

Some researchers did some interesting work and found three basic types of authoratarian personality. I must find that.

Actually my comments are in regards to when there are no consequences for violently assaulting those “institutions” or just common people on the street.

For example, let’s take the attempted murder of a candidate for NY Governor, Lee Zeldin, yesterday. Zeldin correctly predicted that the violent criminal would be out of jail with no bail by today despite being charged with a felony. In the long term this criminal will probably get probation at worse under New York’s soft-on-crime DAs and rules.

When a society sees there are no consequences for violent crimes whether it is violently assaulting capitol buildings, courts, politicians or your neighbor — this is the first step into the descent into tribalism, mob rule, and societal collapse. There needs to be some level of law and order to have a civilized society — coupled with some level of trust in government institutions. Does this means that cops are always perfect? Obviously not. But I want you to imagine how your city would look two months later if they fired all the cops and everyone was free to do whatever they please.

 

[Cuddles]

Actually my comments are in regards to when there are no consequences for violently assaulting those “institutions” or just common people on the street.

For example, let’s take the attempted murder of a candidate for NY Governor, Lee Zeldin, yesterday. Zeldin correctly predicted that the violent criminal would be out of jail with no bail by today despite being charged with a felony. In the long term this criminal will probably get probation at worse under New York’s soft-on-crime DAs and rules.

When a society sees there are no consequences for violent crimes whether it is violently assaulting capitol buildings, courts, politicians or your neighbor — this is the first step into the descent into tribalism, mob rule, and societal collapse. There needs to be some level of law and order to have a civilized society — coupled with some level of trust in government institutions. Does this means that cops are always perfect? Obviously not. But I want you to imagine how your city would look two months later if they fired all the cops and everyone was free to do whatever they please.

That shit was so fake, it would make Juicy Smolls blush in embarrassment. Wtf was the drunk carrying? Some 3d printed knuckles, lol

 

[El OchoCinco]

So tell us how many officers Minneapolis has now compared to 2019. As stated by defunding advocates — chasing police officers off their jobs by abusing them is just as good as defunding their budget.

Wait so first it was defund the police and we proved that was bullshit because the police force budget actually stayed the same or increased.

Then it is ... how many officers are there compared to 2019.... so now its dems fault that police resign or leave the force?

Wait.... did you forget about this:

In April 2022, a scathing report by the Minnesota Department of Human Rights found that probable cause that Minneapolis officers “engage in a pattern or practice of race discrimination.” They disproportionately use severe force against blacks and other minorities, stop their vehicles more often, and are more likely to arrest them and track them covertly online, according to the report.

POLICE DID THIS SHIT TO THEMSELVES. If Derek fucktard did not sit on Floyd's neck for 9 minutes then the city woudl not have been sued. If the police would stop acting like thugs they would have more respect.

ALso maybe police shoudl stop sucking at the government tit and do their job:

A sharp increase in police officers applying for workers compensation benefits since spring 2020 — many of them filing claims for post-traumatic stress disorder — is also straining the city’s budget.

In a typical year, MPD’s worker compensation costs account for less than half the citywide total. In 2020, they made up the majority of the city’s workers’ comp costs — nearly $11.8 million, out of more than $14.2 million citywide, according to a presentation given to City Council members in early October.

 

[gwb-trading]

Short Answer: People are sick of the increase in violent crime, will no longer accept "defunding the police" and want more cops on the streets to make their communities safer.

More Than Two Years After George Floyd’s Murder Sparked a Movement, Police Reform Has Stalled. What Happened?
George Floyd’s caught-on-camera murder prompted massive social justice and police reform protests. But a spike in violent crime shifted the narrative around public safety.
https://www.propublica.org/article/why-police-reform-stalled-elizabeth-glazer

 

[Mercor]

citation needed

More than 20 major cities have reduced police budgets in some form, and activists are fighting to ensure that is only the start

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community

 

[El OchoCinco]

Short Answer: People are sick of the increase in violent crime, will no longer accept "defunding the police" and want more cops on the streets to make their communities safer.

More Than Two Years After George Floyd’s Murder Sparked a Movement, Police Reform Has Stalled. What Happened?
George Floyd’s caught-on-camera murder prompted massive social justice and police reform protests. But a spike in violent crime shifted the narrative around public safety.
https://www.propublica.org/article/why-police-reform-stalled-elizabeth-glazer

Increases in crime should not have stalled efforts to reofrm the police force itself. You have lunatics, anger managment drop outs and ignorant of the law people being sent out into the streets with guns with no understanding of the constitution and not one city has made any significant effort to change that so we no longer have misdeamoners punishable by death or rogue cops stop costing cities millions in lawsuits.

Like eveyrthing else, politicians talked a good game and just waited for people to lose interest and moved on. Increase in crime would put more of an emphasis of fixing what is wrong with policing so that they can be effective. But instead they keep on sending out Seargent Harris with multiple complaints and anger issues and a loose trigger and cry when they pay out $5 million to the family of a kid beaten or killed.

 

[Cuddles]

Short Answer: People are sick of the increase in violent crime, will no longer accept "defunding the police" and want more cops on the streets to make their communities safer.

More Than Two Years After George Floyd’s Murder Sparked a Movement, Police Reform Has Stalled. What Happened?
George Floyd’s caught-on-camera murder prompted massive social justice and police reform protests. But a spike in violent crime shifted the narrative around public safety.
https://www.propublica.org/article/why-police-reform-stalled-elizabeth-glazer

What happened is Joe abandoned his campaign promises throwing minorities under the bus and took the coward's way out by appealing to "moderates" and thug police unions.