The Most Loathsome American Politicians and Preachers of 2011

[cgroupman]

Quote from Ricter:

Anyone and everyone could be on that list because the writing is cariacature. Had the writer chosen, for tone, to accentuate the subjects' strengths, instead of failings, I have little doubt readers here would be saying, "bullshit, Obama/Reid/Pelosi are not good in any way", etc.

The word caricature is accurate. Just like the right fights the caricature of Obama, not the actual President. They fight over what they want others to think Obama has done, or said, whether it's true or not.

And, to be fair, the left probably went too far against Bush II. Sometimes even losing respect for the office.


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[Lucrum]

Quote from cgroupman:

And, to be fair, the left probably went too far against Bush II. Sometimes even losing respect for the office.


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Ya think?



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[pspr]

Quote from cgroupman:

They fight over what they want others to think Obama has done, or said, whether it's true or not.

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It's mostly true.


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[cgroupman]

Quote from pspr:

It's mostly true.


I respect your opinions. Put up some of your thoughts on the terrible things Obama has actually done. You know darn well what I mean, not the talking points, which I really think are beneath you. ie. has he taken away your guns? Did he take away jobs? What horrible things has he done? You may not like the perception of the President, all that silly Muslim, birther, nonsense, but I think you may have some legitimate reasons to want to vote him out.

List a few, and I ask the others to maybe list some of the accomplishments from the other side.

Sound fair enough?


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[pspr]

Quote from cgroupman:

Quote from pspr:

It's mostly true.


I respect your opinions. Put up some of your thoughts on the terrible things Obama has actually done. You know darn well what I mean, not the talking points, which I really think are beneath you. ie. has he taken away your guns? Did he take away jobs? What horrible things has he done? You may not like the perception of the President, all that silly Muslim, birther, nonsense, but I think you may have some legitimate reasons to want to vote him out.

List a few, and I ask the others to maybe list some of the accomplishments from the other side.

Sound fair enough?


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has he taken away your guns?
Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...ra-official-obama-wants-outlaw-guns-2nd-term/

Did he take away jobs?
Just one example
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...one-pipeline/2012/01/18/gIQAPuPF8P_story.html

$800+ Billion Stimulus to Nowhere

ObamaCare, etc. etc. etc.

This forum is filled with Obama errors and pandering to his donors and resdistributing income. All you have to do is search for the word Obama.


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[cgroupman]

Quote from pspr:

has he taken away your guns?
Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...ra-official-obama-wants-outlaw-guns-2nd-term/

Did he take away jobs?
Just one example
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...one-pipeline/2012/01/18/gIQAPuPF8P_story.html

$800+ Billion Stimulus to Nowhere

ObamaCare, etc. etc. etc.

This forum is filled with Obama errors and pandering to his donors and resdistributing income. All you have to do is search for the word Obama.


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OK, You quote an NRA person just saying something. Show some actual facts on that.

Have you even bothered looking at the facts regarding jobs? I'm sorry, but there have been so many charts showing how much better that situation is since Bush.

And, the survival of the auto industry was a nice extra.

Not looking for talking points, just facts. From both sides.

edit: back to the guns. Do you really think Obama is going to 'outlaw guns' , - seriously? Come on, you know better. Care to make a simple bet, cash money on this? I'll give you odds that Obama will not outlaw guns. You're better than this.

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[Max E.]

Can you please drop this pious horseshit and quit pretending you are "looking out for both sides," and giving an equal argument to both? We arent idiots, and every time you post this as you relentlessly defend all things left wing it is just annoying..... admit who you are and quit playing these games like RCG trader is.

I can have a civilized debate with you, because you are civil, but if you repeat this kind of non sense too many times, the people on the right are going to have to go into full on attack mode.....

Quote from cgroupman:



Not looking for talking points, just facts. From both sides.

edit: back to the guns. Do you really think Obama is going to 'outlaw guns' , - seriously? Come on, you know better. Care to make a simple bet, cash money on this? I'll give you odds that Obama will not outlaw guns. You're better than this.

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[cgroupman]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Can you please drop this pious horseshit and quit pretending you are "looking out for both sides," and giving an equal argument to both? We arent idiots, and every time you post this as you relentlessly defend all things left wing it is just annoying..... admit who you are and quit playing these games like RCG trader is.

I can have a civilized debate with you, because you are civil, but if you repeat this kind of non sense too many times, the people on the right are going to have to go into full on attack mode.....

Feel free to pick a 'side' and I'll do my best to be devil's advocate. I admit to being a centrist, and have voiced the fact that I am a social liberal, and a fiscal conservative. Pretty simple really. I really like to try to show both sides,, sometimes one side seems to be a bit harder to support. It happens, sorry. Some lefties are just not worth defending, some righties are just beyond help. I try to see the moderate in everyone, when possible.


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[pspr]

Nice unbiased look at the facts. Sniker sniker.

You know Obama would outlaw guns in an instant if he thought he could. He has a liberal agenda and you are just one of his lackies.

I give you some points just as you ask and you try to deny them. Obama hasn't done shit for America since he has been President. He has done plenty for his donors and his voting block that doesn't pay taxes. Including handouts left and handouts right. He and his party have squandered trillions and won't even begin to deal with the huge financial problem in government.

Now stop trying to be so pompus and realize your man is NOT good for this country.


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Quote from cgroupman:

OK, You quote an NRA person just saying something. Show some actual facts on that.

Have you even bothered looking at the facts regarding jobs? I'm sorry, but there have been so many charts showing how much better that situation is since Bush.

And, the survival of the auto industry was a nice extra.

Not looking for talking points, just facts. From both sides.

edit: back to the guns. Do you really think Obama is going to 'outlaw guns' , - seriously? Come on, you know better. Care to make a simple bet, cash money on this? I'll give you odds that Obama will not outlaw guns. You're better than this.

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[Max E.]

Quote from cgroupman:

Feel free to pick a 'side' and I'll do my best to be devil's advocate. I admit to being a centrist, and have voiced the fact that I am a social liberal, and a fiscal conservative. Pretty simple really. I really like to try to show both sides,, sometimes one side seems to be a bit harder to support. It happens, sorry. Some lefties are just not worth defending, some righties are just beyond help. I try to see the moderate in everyone, when possible.


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I have had about all I can stomach of you as a self proclaimed centrist....... You are getting up there with RCG trader very quickly, and i will tell you flat out that people dont like game playing, admit who and what you are, and we can have civilized debate, but quit playing this stupid game, or you will quickly be labelled a troll.....

Here is your last 10 posts....

All ten of them either go after a conservative on this site, or a conservative idea, quit playing this stupid fucking game that you are a centrist, if you really believe you are a centrist then you are a delusional fucking idiot.... You are batting 1000% against conservatives, a perfect 10-0 Mr. centrist.... Why dont you show us all these posts where you go after liberals mr centrist? You just defended Barbara Walters, and the left wing media when only a fucking tool would think that the way she or the left wing media have treated JFK's mistress is unbiased.....

What is it about ass hats like you where you have this holier than thou opinion of yourself, where you actually think you are unbiased.....

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...449#post3444449

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...444#post3444444

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...442#post3444442

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...435#post3444435

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...328#post3444328

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...320#post3444320

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...311#post3444311

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...090#post3444090

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...952#post3443952

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...680#post3443680