Well said my friend. Let's hope it doesn't come to some kind of "bailout". That would be ridiculous.Quote from seasideheights:
"Victims"???
More like opportunists who are now being called on their stupid lending practices. The lending institutions & the people taking out the loans KNEW they couldn't afford to pay the mortgages once they ballooned. It was all a game. Now those of us who didn't "play the game" have to pay for it???? BS. No one comes to my defense when I make a bad trade. No one should come to their defense. The borrowers DESERVE to be out of their houses. The lending institutions DESERVE to go under. Those entities & transactions never should have existed in the first place. The fed cutting interest rates won't solve the problem. The "problem", which was actually done years ago by the lenders, will now work its way out & those who supported those mortgages will have to pay. Too bad. No one forced them to do those transactions. Stop acting like children. Pay for your mistakes.
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"Victims"???
The borrowers DESERVE to be out of their houses.
Quote from jamis359:
No, not all of them. Many are young families, first-time buyers, who were truly victimized by unscrupulous RE brokers or lenders. Some buyers were led to believe their teaser rates were fixed for 30 years. Some buyers were not told about negative amortization.
Some buyers were victims of fraudulent sales and lending practices -- that is well documented, and those victims are left holding the bag because the fly-by-night mortgage lenders are probably out of business now. There is no one to sue, no one to collect damages from.
Part of the blame for the mortgage mess lies with our government. They were negligent for not having reasonable regulations in place to protect buyers (and the marketplace) from liar loans, neg amortization, etc.
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Hmmm...Quote from jamis359:
No, not all of them. Many are young families, first-time buyers, who were truly victimized by lenders.
So it's not the buyer's responsibility to understand the transaction? Wow.Quote from jamis359:
Some buyers were led to believe their teaser rates were fixed for 30 years. Some buyers were not told about negative amortization.
Well documented? Links please?Quote from jamis359:
Some buyers were victims of fraudulent sales and lending practices -- that is well documented.
Can you explain what 'reasonable regulations' could possibly prevent sharp practice among lenders who are dealing with buyers who don't know enough about the process or the various ways in which they need to protect themselves? Possibly the government should review every transaction to ensure that the lender is not engaging in 'liar loans [whatever they might be] and neg amortization'? The key word here is prevent. I cannot for the life of me figure out how the government could prevent this. Punish lenders who defraud, sure, but prevent them from engaging in business with a willing participant? (This is assuming that anything you mentioned is actually illegal, which is not clear to me. Uncrupulous possibly, but illegal? If I sell you a car for $50,000 but the car is worth $10,000, that's not illegal. It just means that you overpaid.Quote from jamis359:
Part of the blame for the mortgage mess lies with our government. They were negligent for not having reasonable regulations in place to protect buyers (and the marketplace) from liar loans, neg amortization, etc.
Quote from jamis359:
No, not all of them. Many are young families, first-time buyers, who were truly victimized by unscrupulous RE brokers or lenders. Some buyers were led to believe their teaser rates were fixed for 30 years. Some buyers were not told about negative amortization.
Some buyers were victims of fraudulent sales and lending practices -- that is well documented, and those victims are left holding the bag because the fly-by-night mortgage lenders are probably out of business now. There is no one to sue, no one to collect damages from.
Part of the blame for the mortgage mess lies with our government. They were negligent for not having reasonable regulations in place to protect buyers (and the marketplace) from liar loans, neg amortization, etc.
Quote from jamis359:
No, not all of them. Many are young families, first-time buyers, who were truly victimized by unscrupulous RE brokers or lenders. Some buyers were led to believe their teaser rates were fixed for 30 years. Some buyers were not told about negative amortization.
Some buyers were victims of fraudulent sales and lending practices -- that is well documented, and those victims are left holding the bag because the fly-by-night mortgage lenders are probably out of business now. There is no one to sue, no one to collect damages from.
Part of the blame for the mortgage mess lies with our government. They were negligent for not having reasonable regulations in place to protect buyers (and the marketplace) from liar loans, neg amortization, etc.
Quote from seasideheights:
"Victims"???
More like opportunists who are now being called on their stupid lending practices. The lending institutions & the people taking out the loans KNEW they couldn't afford to pay the mortgages once they ballooned. It was all a game. Now those of us who didn't "play the game" have to pay for it???? BS. No one comes to my defense when I make a bad trade. No one should come to their defense. The borrowers DESERVE to be out of their houses. The lending institutions DESERVE to go under. Those entities & transactions never should have existed in the first place. The fed cutting interest rates won't solve the problem. The "problem", which was actually done years ago by the lenders, will now work its way out & those who supported those mortgages will have to pay. Too bad. No one forced them to do those transactions. Stop acting like children. Pay for your mistakes.