The mighty U.S. has lost 2 wars, Afghanistan and Ukraine, under Biden

[Tony Stark]

now let's see how humiliated USA will be in Ukraine after providing hundreds of billions in military aid to nazis

The US will give Ukraine billions to rebuild.

The US military and economy will still be #1 in the world.

Russia's economy and military will be devastated for decades to come.They will be worse than they were after The Afghan war which lead to The USSRs collapse. Putin will never invade another country after this war and Russias next leader/leaders wont think of invading another country for decades.NATO will have 2 more countries than they did before Ukraine,one of them 850 miles on Russias border and 150 miles from St Petersberg.

The US still had the #1 military and economy in the world after Iraq and Afghanistan.Russia was in shambles after Afghanistan and will be after Ukraine.Even after The Ukraine war is over US sanctions will remain for a long time,continuing to devastate their economy while they try to rebuild.They will continue to have to sell their # 1 export(oil) to The Chinese at 40% discounts for a long time.Their only friend that can help them ,China, will only do so by taking advantage of them in every deal like they do when buying their oil at huge discounts.

I hate Biden for the job he has done domestically,but he has done a great fucking job in neutering Russia for decades to come at the cost of only half of 1 years US defense budget.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Listen what failed was nation building. We could have killed every taliban, burned the place to the ground and taken all the resources if we wanted to. You’re confusing military strength with political policy. The US military cannot be stopped by any nation on Earth. We can take anything we want.

This is complete bs. I am shocked in the information age that Americans like yourself still do not understand the complexities of war concerning geography, population, and nuclear threats. You may have the #1 military but against the rest of the world you are overmatched on so many levels. No, you can't do anything you want. Keep your allies well then we all have a chance.

 

[Tony Stark]

NATO will have 2 more countries than they did before Ukraine,one of them 850 miles on Russias border and 150 miles from St Petersberg.

When Putin retires to his hometown of St Petersberg he will be able to see NATO from his house.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Total bullshit. Not only did we completely overtake Afghanistan and control it for 20 years, we did the same in Iraq AT THE SAME TIME.

I don’t know what you call victory but we definitely won both of those wars.

You won Vietnam too right ?

 

[Cuddles]

Again, what failed was nation building. We absolutely achieved military victory.

Did we though, or are you engaging in copium? Germany was a victory, South Korea was a victory*. Vietnam, AFG, Iraq, it doesn't matter how many battles we won if the enemy ends up seizing the territory controlled before the war ends. It's like calling Soviet occupation of Afg a victory because they had superiority over the country.

N.Korea & S. Korea are still at war technically....if N. Korea were to take over, technically that war would be lost.

 

[Tony Stark]

invading country, staying within heavy armoured bases for 20 years and then leaving in charge the same guys you conquered doesn't count as winning war

I understand winning war for US means installing sort of stable democracy or at least some friednly dictatorship with somewhat peacful community - 20 years non stop insurgency with momentarious fall of puppet government doesn't count

funny thing those guys in flip flops even didn't have any support at all.

now let's see how humiliated USA will be in Ukraine after providing hundreds of billions in military aid to nazis

 

[UsualName]

This is complete bs. I am shocked in the information age that Americans like yourself still do not understand the complexities of war concerning geography, population, and nuclear threats. You may have the #1 military but against the rest of the world you are overmatched on so many levels. No, you can't do anything you want. Keep your allies well then we all have a chance.

Ok. I will give you that, the US vs the entire rest of the world would be a bit difficult. Still the odds are with us.

 

[mervyn]

Ok. I will give you that, the US vs the entire rest of the world would be a bit difficult. Still the odds are with us.

every empire has an expiration date at some point, starting with internal politics.

 

[wildchild]

Listen what failed was nation building. We could have killed every taliban, burned the place to the ground and taken all the resources if we wanted to. You’re confusing military strength with political policy. The US military cannot be stopped by any nation on Earth. We can take anything we want.

Pretending it didnt happen, doesnt mean it didnt happen.

They way Biden left Afghanistan was disgusting.

"They are not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There is going to be no circumstance in which you are going to see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable." Joe BiteMe.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Did we though, or are you engaging in copium? Germany was a victory, South Korea was a victory*. Vietnam, AFG, Iraq, it doesn't matter how many battles we won if the enemy ends up seizing the territory controlled before the war ends. It's like calling Soviet occupation of Afg a victory because they had superiority over the country.

N.Korea & S. Korea are still at war technically....if N. Korea were to take over, technically that war would be lost.

Germany was a victory for the Allies. A good working example of when the #1 military nation in the world tries to take on the world. A huge chunk of the German win was due to the UK and USSR grinding them down for years. Geography/weather in USSR was Hitler's biggest blunder. Many other "smaller" countries contributed in a meaningful way including Canada.