Quote from killthesunshine:
then how do YOU measure God?![]()
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Measurement, is by definition.
That's really what measurement is, a definition process.
Where the materialists flounder is when they try to define the ocean while smack dab in the middle of it...unable to see the shore.
No one has really defined the universe, given it size, mass, weight, age, etc.
The leading theory is that there was a time when the universe was not in existence as we know it, but that is just a wild guess with lots of problems in the guess.
Quote from killthesunshine:
this "instrument" of yours "abstract thinking and ontological reasoning" is unlimited therefore YOU know God?![]()
why are YOU privy to this truth(unlimited instrumentation) ?![]()